Tate brothers

Of course the Tate bros and their followers are by definition all weak and cowardly men, who htink that boasting about their weakness and cowardice makes them brave.

Why are they weak and cowardly? Because, essentially they are terrified of women and are incapable of to have an equal relationship with us.

They are mice not men.

The reason I made this post is that I think it is vital us Grans, as well as parents, are made fully aware of the world their DGC now inhabit.

Our lives, in many ways, were so much safer and more simple.

Whilst I love this digital world we now live in, it has a very dark side and I’d rather be aware of it and the dangers.

Mt61

I don’t know who they are, or what they stand for- not much by sounds by the sounds of it on here.

The BBC article in the O/P will tell you about the Tate brothers.

TheWeirdoAgain1

Trumpie-baby and Tatey-babies are evil beyond belief with their twisted attitudes rewards females. They should be sent back to the lab test tubes they were created in and destroyed!

Awful as it sounds, I actually agree! Just add Vance and Musk to your list!

Trumpie-baby and Tatey-babies are evil beyond belief with their twisted attitudes rewards females. They should be sent back to the lab test tubes they were created in and destroyed!

the guardian article is enlightening but it highlights how many people watch and follow them too

Cossy

Wyllow3

But as I've pointed out on the last page, Florida has opened a criminal investigation on them.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9dx5d1g5lo

Unless its a set up.

I’m finding this all very suspect, Trump lives in Florida, Trump intervenes to bring them to the USA, then Florida press on ahead with charges? Make absolutely no sense at all to me, but then again not much of Trump’s actions make any sense to me 🙄🙄

I read on Facebook that Trump is playing golf with one of them this weekend but don’t know if that is true. What is worrying is that it wouldn’t surprise me if he was.

I don’t know who they are, or what they stand for- not much by sounds by the sounds of it on here.

I see chocolatelovinggran I hadn’t read the thread properly. Sadly they do appeal to disaffected white males, but also others.

Without making excuses I do agree with much of what undine says. There are real concerns about white males from poor backgrounds and their place in society. They are looking for role models and someone to blame, found it in one. And unfortunately I think men in general find it easy to dislike women, but most keep it to themselves.

No, nightowl -I was referring to undine's post about the popularity of these men with certain misunderstood groups.

They’re not white though, their father was African American. Andrew Tate (not sure about his brother) has converted to Islam and has a frighteningly diverse supporter base both here and in the US.

Oh dear - poor white males...no wonder they are reduced to talking about taking a machete to uppity women.

Agree they are despicable apologies of human beings. Why would you want to know anymore about them!

undines

They should not be 'stopped' because we value free speech - don't we????
I'm sure that murderer watched a lot of other vile stuff and I'm sure none of it caused him to do what he did - come off it.
They are a product of our time - our time which denigrates young white males, talks all the time about 'toxic masculinity', skews algorithms against white males, is now talking about giving them heftier gaol sentences than people of colour and in short seems to respect nothing that we could call 'traditionally masculine' giving them nowhere to go, nowhere to belong, few inspiring role models etc etc etc - yet seems to be on the brink of expecting them to be prepared to go off and die in the Ukraine. The Tate brothers have come out in opposition to that attitude. Yes they are overtly vile - better that than covertly so.

undines, your comments seem to me to follow the narrative that society, especially women, are responsible for the Tate brothers and their hideous beliefs and behaviour.
That feels like victim blaming , the kind of horrors we hear from Tate and other men who dislike and want to hurt /dominate women.
They aren’t a product of our tine etc…. They’re a type of male who is angry

The Tate brothers left Romania while under criminal investigation over accusations of having formed an organised criminal group, in addition to human trafficking, the trafficking of minors, sex with a minor and money laundering. Social media activity isn’t the half of it.

Cossy, if this is the plan, it won't exonerate the Tate brothers.
There are charges outstanding in Britain , and any allegations about crimes committed in Bedfordshire would need to be tried in Britain. I'm not sure how this applies to Romania.
There are extradition agreements between GB and the USA.

Wyllow3 I know nothing about AI but I assume it must be based on historical information and data. If someone knows better I'd be very interested to hear.

Cossy

Wyllow3

But as I've pointed out on the last page, Florida has opened a criminal investigation on them.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9dx5d1g5lo

Unless its a set up.

I’m finding this all very suspect, Trump lives in Florida, Trump intervenes to bring them to the USA, then Florida press on ahead with charges? Make absolutely no sense at all to me, but then again not much of Trump’s actions make any sense to me 🙄🙄

Well the plan might be to prosecute but set it up to find not guilty.

Churchview

*skews algorithms against white males*

That doesn't seem to be true either.

dobetter.esade.edu/en/algorithms-equality

Thats a pretty alarming report on AI. Certainly something to keep an eye on. Is it because it includes historical data and pictures as well as contemporary? Or how else can it turn out some of the data?

undines

They should not be 'stopped' because we value free speech - don't we????
I'm sure that murderer watched a lot of other vile stuff and I'm sure none of it caused him to do what he did - come off it.
They are a product of our time - our time which denigrates young white males, talks all the time about 'toxic masculinity', skews algorithms against white males, is now talking about giving them heftier gaol sentences than people of colour and in short seems to respect nothing that we could call 'traditionally masculine' giving them nowhere to go, nowhere to belong, few inspiring role models etc etc etc - yet seems to be on the brink of expecting them to be prepared to go off and die in the Ukraine. The Tate brothers have come out in opposition to that attitude. Yes they are overtly vile - better that than covertly so.

Are you being serious? With freedom of speech comes responsibility.

The stuff Andrew Tate spouts is bordering on radicalisation to our young men, who are our future.

Young impressionable men, who do not need to be told a women is inferior to a man and that her primary function is to please her man, keep house and breed.

Wyllow3

But as I've pointed out on the last page, Florida has opened a criminal investigation on them.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9dx5d1g5lo

Unless its a set up.

I’m finding this all very suspect, Trump lives in Florida, Trump intervenes to bring them to the USA, then Florida press on ahead with charges? Make absolutely no sense at all to me, but then again not much of Trump’s actions make any sense to me 🙄🙄

skews algorithms against white males

That doesn't seem to be true either.

dobetter.esade.edu/en/algorithms-equality

undines

They should not be 'stopped' because we value free speech - don't we????
I'm sure that murderer watched a lot of other vile stuff and I'm sure none of it caused him to do what he did - come off it.
They are a product of our time - our time which denigrates young white males, talks all the time about 'toxic masculinity', skews algorithms against white males, is now talking about giving them heftier gaol sentences than people of colour and in short seems to respect nothing that we could call 'traditionally masculine' giving them nowhere to go, nowhere to belong, few inspiring role models etc etc etc - yet seems to be on the brink of expecting them to be prepared to go off and die in the Ukraine. The Tate brothers have come out in opposition to that attitude. Yes they are overtly vile - better that than covertly so.

Rape and human trafficking does not form part of free speeech?

They should not be 'stopped' because we value free speech - don't we????

We value free speech, but not hate speech.

Here's Tate on what to do if you think your girlfriend is cheating, "It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up bitch.” ? That's hate speech.

I'm sure that murderer watched a lot of other vile stuff and I'm sure none of it caused him to do what he did - come off it.

Lots of research to prove the link between hate speech and extreme violence. Some here
www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-religion-or-belief/hate-speech-and-incitement-hatred-or-violence

Young men still grow up in a world where, due to the pay gap, they will most likely earn more than young women. A world in which they will be significantly over represented in top jobs and where men make up over 85% of the ultra wealthy. The whole world of politics, business, tech, sport and the professions is full of masculine role models for young men.

Men from ethnic minorities get longer custodial sentences than white men. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-what-does-recent-data-say/

They should not be 'stopped' because we value free speech - don't we????
I'm sure that murderer watched a lot of other vile stuff and I'm sure none of it caused him to do what he did - come off it.
They are a product of our time - our time which denigrates young white males, talks all the time about 'toxic masculinity', skews algorithms against white males, is now talking about giving them heftier gaol sentences than people of colour and in short seems to respect nothing that we could call 'traditionally masculine' giving them nowhere to go, nowhere to belong, few inspiring role models etc etc etc - yet seems to be on the brink of expecting them to be prepared to go off and die in the Ukraine. The Tate brothers have come out in opposition to that attitude. Yes they are overtly vile - better that than covertly so.