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Ships collide in North Sea.

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MayBee70 Mon 10-Mar-25 18:12:53

Containing aviation fuel and sodium cyanide. I really hope that this can be contained in some way. If not I dread to think of what effect it will have on the environment and wildlife ( birds are only now recovering from the bird flu outbreak).

David49 Fri 14-Mar-25 15:06:01

Wyllow3

Obvious question - who enforces safety? When the Irish team found all the faults, who is supposed to regulate or stop these ships/force repairs instead of just reporting them?

Who pays for the clean up? who claims insurance?

That is the problem you can have all the rules and equipment if the crew don’t use it, or leave the ship on autopilot and go to sleep or whatever
Accidents continue to happen they are humans and will have errors

Claremont Fri 14-Mar-25 15:25:03

So when there are accidents caused by not using safety equipment properly, just as on building sites- the COMPANY and not just the Captain or crew, should be made responsible and have to pay out for all costs, incl. clean up, and Insurance should not pay out to Company either.

That'd learn them!

David49 Fri 14-Mar-25 15:47:14

Claremont

So when there are accidents caused by not using safety equipment properly, just as on building sites- the COMPANY and not just the Captain or crew, should be made responsible and have to pay out for all costs, incl. clean up, and Insurance should not pay out to Company either.

That'd learn them!

They do have to pay, how much the insurance picks up would vary.
Does the rules require 2 persons on the bridge when at sea

AuntieE Fri 14-Mar-25 15:53:13

Wyllow3

Quite shocking. there must have been automatic warning systems that were ignored?

They may have been, but it does take a long time to stop a big ship, or just alter its course, so the warnings may have been too late.

Allira Fri 14-Mar-25 15:59:53

AuntieE

Wyllow3

Quite shocking. there must have been automatic warning systems that were ignored?

They may have been, but it does take a long time to stop a big ship, or just alter its course, so the warnings may have been too late.

It could take up to a mile.
The engines could be put astern but a collision could still occur.

missdeke Fri 14-Mar-25 16:18:28

According to BBC news 'The Solong was still on fire on Wednesday, while the fire on the Stena Immaculate has been extinguished, according to the ship's co-owner. Despite initial fears of potentially devastating environmental damage, air quality tests have registered no toxins so far.' Let's hope it stays that way.

Cressida Sat 15-Mar-25 19:56:03

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPjnVwYysQ&ab_channel=What%27sGoingonWithShipping%3F

This video, and a couple of later ones from the same source, might clear up some questions about this.

Rocknroll5me Sun 16-Mar-25 06:49:23

Massive coincidence that the captain of the container ship that rammed the anchored one full of jet fuel for US military use was Russian. Just off the coast of Great Britain, what could the warning be? I think it is s bit naive not to consider this. It’s a horrendous threat against wildlife and nature. Shipping could be halted. The captain will be punished according to law but what is that compared to the rewards he might be given? Or by trading other punishment he might have had back home? Or just for Russia. The coincidence is so strong I guess it is unthinkable.

Wyllow3 Sun 16-Mar-25 19:00:42

No, I don't think he was some kind of Russian 'Plant'.

NotSpaghetti Sun 16-Mar-25 20:30:14

We know it was foggy and the ship had previously had a steering problem.
I don't think he was a plant either!