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Trump’s tariffs. Now it’s the Republic of Ireland’s turn. ☘️

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 12-Mar-25 20:25:44

Trump. He certainly isn't Joe O'Biden.

Allira Thu 13-Mar-25 23:03:16

The USA is by far the largest manufacturer of pharmaceuticals in the world.

Some which were developed in countries like Switzerland and are very expensive until they come off licence may be manufactured in countries such as India far more cheaply.
This is what happens.
I don't know why Trump would be so concerned about Ireland when the USA has 40% of the market.

Claremont Thu 13-Mar-25 20:54:51

Indeed, and it is not at all about the past, but the future.

vegansrock Thu 13-Mar-25 20:52:49

The reason Ireland attracts the big pharmaceuticals? They’re members of the EU!
The reason UK lost some big pharmaceuticals? Take a guess….

Claremont Thu 13-Mar-25 20:45:53

Maremia

Sorry deniers, but to be correct, BREXIT is anything but 'done'. We are still suffering because of it. On the other hand, Trump might push us back into the fold, for our own safety. Gosh...a positive.

Exactly, and the two are very closely linked. Au contraire David, - the UK is isolated, commercially, politically, and geographically.

Play the ball and not the player - ah wouldn't that just be marvellous - oh the irony!

Norah Thu 13-Mar-25 20:03:43

Cossy

Come on ladies (& gents), it really doesn’t matter who FGT likes or doesn’t like!

Much as I might not understand or agree she has as much right to air her own opinions and views as the rest of us!

She isn’t actually Trump, so shouldn’t be personally attacked or blamed for anything the biggly yellow 💩💩 might do or say!

Let’s play nicely!

Excellent post.

We can all have different opinions to POTUS without attacking others.

Allira Thu 13-Mar-25 19:46:44

Wyllow3

I found that article about distributive bargaining and how negative it is very interesting, Syracute.

Perhaps it would help to get back on topic.

Sorry, I was cooking and eating, only just caught up.

As you were 🙂

Allira Thu 13-Mar-25 19:44:56

Rosie51

Maremia

Yes Rosie51, but Vance has none of Trumps 'charm', so folk like MAGA and Fried won't be so entranced. The Republicans are scared of Trump, not sure they are of Vance.
So, if nature takes it's course, who are we to complain.

Will it matter who is or isn't entranced if Vance takes office? I dread to think of the calculated disruption and harm he could unleash. Trump acts reactively and without thought (just like a two year old) which is why he can change direction within 24 hours and claim he hasn't. With Vance there would be no such reversals.
There are those who appear to take pleasure in holding FGT's 'entrancement' responsible for Trump's actions but she really isn't that powerful! I may disagree with her 100% about Trump but it is unedifying to witness the hounding of her.

Well said Rosie51

FriedGreenTomatoes2 knows I disagree with her on Trump, Farage etc - but, let's face it, she is not alone in her opinions. However, she seems to have been the only poster to be brave enough to keep sticking her head above the parapet and be pelted with brickbats. Other posters have disappeared and who can blame them.

A forum, a society, where only one opinion is allowed is a frightening prospect - what is known as totalitarianism.

Allira Thu 13-Mar-25 19:35:37

Maremia

So, in your eyes Fried, if you don't vote for someone then they shouldn't have to look after you.
So in your eyes, Labour should tell Reform voters etc to take a hike?
In your eyes Fried, who is Trump actually helping just now, apart from Musk, and disaster capitalists, and his billionaire doner buddies, by channeling his inner dodgy car salesman persona?
No, can't see 'charm' in any of that.

You see, that post could come across as goady, Mar.

Casdon Thu 13-Mar-25 19:07:24

David49

Maremia

Sorry deniers, but to be correct, BREXIT is anything but 'done'. We are still suffering because of it. On the other hand, Trump might push us back into the fold, for our own safety. Gosh...a positive.

Currently we are well out of the EU argument with the US, it may well yet be a benefit of Brexit!.

Or it may well not. Don’t get too cocky when Trump is involved, he is completely unpredictable.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Mar-25 19:06:36

Cossy 👍🏻

David49 Thu 13-Mar-25 19:02:42

Maremia

Sorry deniers, but to be correct, BREXIT is anything but 'done'. We are still suffering because of it. On the other hand, Trump might push us back into the fold, for our own safety. Gosh...a positive.

Currently we are well out of the EU argument with the US, it may well yet be a benefit of Brexit!.

Cossy Thu 13-Mar-25 19:01:57

Come on ladies (& gents), it really doesn’t matter who FGT likes or doesn’t like!

Much as I might not understand or agree she has as much right to air her own opinions and views as the rest of us!

She isn’t actually Trump, so shouldn’t be personally attacked or blamed for anything the biggly yellow 💩💩 might do or say!

Let’s play nicely!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Mar-25 18:57:06

Maremia

Okay, who gets to define what is a 'pile on', and what is a free exchange of opinions?

GNHQ who have already deleted one post directed at FGT2

Another much used in N & P threads

play the ball not the player

David49 Thu 13-Mar-25 18:55:58

One of the biggest “victims” of Irelands domination hosting company HQs is the UK . We should be recieving a proper share of online and overseas taxation revenue. It all gets hived off to Ireland and the US.

Currently Starmer is keeping out of the controversy, quite rightly

Maremia Thu 13-Mar-25 18:54:23

Sorry deniers, but to be correct, BREXIT is anything but 'done'. We are still suffering because of it. On the other hand, Trump might push us back into the fold, for our own safety. Gosh...a positive.

Wyllow3 Thu 13-Mar-25 18:53:23

I found that article about distributive bargaining and how negative it is very interesting, Syracute.

Perhaps it would help to get back on topic.

Maremia Thu 13-Mar-25 18:51:38

I think 'not fond of' is a very diluted description of what some of us think of Trump, but heh-ho, free expression, and all that.

Maremia Thu 13-Mar-25 18:48:44

Okay, who gets to define what is a 'pile on', and what is a free exchange of opinions?

Cossy Thu 13-Mar-25 18:44:54

madeleine45

I just keep thinking what Spitting Image could have done with DT. Mind you they would have had to think of something totally crazy to be as cracked as he already is, so they would have a job to find something that could nave been something Trump would really have done himself

Oh I’m so sad there’s no more Sptting Image, they’d have had a field day!!!

Churchview Thu 13-Mar-25 18:37:52

Me too Allira Just binge watched the whole of Miranda again.

Allira Thu 13-Mar-25 18:35:00

Churchview

Trump has charm like Stevie on Miranda has 'the allure'.

Love Stevie! Leave her alone! 😁

Barleyfields Thu 13-Mar-25 18:30:27

Well said Norah.

Churchview Thu 13-Mar-25 18:30:19

Trump has charm like Stevie on Miranda has 'the allure'.

Norah Thu 13-Mar-25 18:27:01

Claremont

GrannyGravy13

This isn’t a discussion it’s a pile on.

People are allowed to have a different opinion, they are not required to constantly give their reasons for said view.

Rudeness is not an attractive personality trait.

And yet we who have different opinions are told 'to get over it', and suggestion of depression or mental illness, requiring a doctor's visit, and so on- and being told our posts are 'goady', etc.

No I don't know FGT2- and she doesn't know me, and neither do you.

The only posts that I've read including 'get over it' were about Brexit. If Brexit is your 'get over it' perhaps do - it's over and done.

FGT likes a person many are not fond of, she's not whinging to the past.

Reading what POTUS is doing is current.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Mar-25 18:24:01

Claremont you have no idea whether or not I know FGT2

Your justifications for posters being rude to her do not hold water, to quote an over used saying two wrongs do not make a right