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Nothing but nothing, can excuse Israel breaking the cease-fire in Gaza

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Claremont Tue 18-Mar-25 18:43:30

- without warning, in the middle of the night- in the middle of Ramadan.

NOTHING.

Maremia Fri 21-Mar-25 16:23:30

Netanyahu wants to clear the planet of Palestinians.

Maremia Fri 21-Mar-25 16:22:10

Victim blaming? Someone made that crazy decision, and those poor folk suffered. Yes, I would still like to know if anyone has had the courage to admit it, and explain why they put those youngsters into such danger.

Boz Fri 21-Mar-25 16:18:58

If you want cowardly and brutal behaviour look no further than Hamas. Have you forgotten the massacre that started all this?
A Country has a right to protect itself from murderous fanatics and to retaliate.

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 16:15:35

Hamas wants to clear the planet of Jews

Allsorts Fri 21-Mar-25 16:14:15

There is no excuse for Israel. Cowardly and brutal behaviour, they are butchers.. I wish all those people were out of their misery now, aid is not getting through and Israel won’t stop until they are all dead. I cant believe all Jews think, that others are sub human and they have divine right?

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 16:14:10

Attack happened during Ramadan and Lent

growstuff Fri 21-Mar-25 16:09:52

Oreo

You know growstuff you don’t need to bring religion into this at all in regard to other posters.
If hamas, as the recognised government of Gaza hadn’t sanctioned, let alone planned the deadly incursion into Israel then we would have had nothing to discuss on here today.
They spent so much money on themselves, on arms and tunnels that there was nothing left for the people of Gaza or for their protection, but for all the miles and miles of tunnels they haven’t allowed any citizens to shelter in them or done anything at all for them.

I wasn't the person who introduced religion.

I know you like sniping at me (whatever floats your boat, dear), but Anniebach's post just didn't make sense. Mine wasn't an emotional response, unless you count despair at lack of logical argument as emotion.

It is a fact that the Israeli attacks happened during Ramadan.

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 16:06:09

Maremia

Are you saying it's wrong to feel emotion about these atrocities?
Isn't Anniebach expressing emotion in that post you have quoted?

She wasn’t being personal.

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 16:00:54

Maremia

Did we ever get an answer to whose decision it was, to move the location of that tragic music festival, to a place so near the 'border' with Gaza?
Yes Whitewavemark2, and if anyone cares to look at a map, to see how the territory was divided up at the time, you will notice by how much the Israeli faction has 'land grabbed' what was intended for the Palestinians.

Oh, victim blaming, nice!

Maremia Fri 21-Mar-25 16:00:19

Are you saying it's wrong to feel emotion about these atrocities?
Isn't Anniebach expressing emotion in that post you have quoted?

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 15:59:20

You know growstuff you don’t need to bring religion into this at all in regard to other posters.
If hamas, as the recognised government of Gaza hadn’t sanctioned, let alone planned the deadly incursion into Israel then we would have had nothing to discuss on here today.
They spent so much money on themselves, on arms and tunnels that there was nothing left for the people of Gaza or for their protection, but for all the miles and miles of tunnels they haven’t allowed any citizens to shelter in them or done anything at all for them.

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 15:52:18

growstuff

Anniebach

Bringing religion into this is definitely ‘Rock Bottom And Still
Drilling’ , disgusting , I feel sick, such hatred

What are you on about?

You claim to be a Christian. Do you not have any respect for people of other faiths?

Emotional personal responses mean a poster has run out of anything reasonable to say.Just saying.

growstuff Fri 21-Mar-25 15:42:50

Whitewavemark2

Smileless2012

No one's saying that Israel isn't a Jewish State Annie but not all Israeli's are Jewish.

England is still regarded as a Christian country and we all know that not everyone who live here is Christian.

Israel was conceived as a secular state - recognising the plurality of religions , and the need to legislate for all. That didn’t last very long did it, although it is still officially a secular state.

Yes, Israel is still a secular state - but possibly not for much longer if Netanyahu's religious allies get their way.

I wish people would find out more about Israel's internal politics because it might explain some of Netanyahu's attitude towards the war.

Smileless2012 Fri 21-Mar-25 15:35:51

What does that have to do with your post in which you said
the poster who stressed Gaza was attacked during Ramadan should be corrected Annie?

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 15:29:10

And during Lent , this was ignored

Smileless2012 Fri 21-Mar-25 15:26:26

Why Annie? Israel did attack Gaza during Ramadan so what needs correcting?

Maremia Fri 21-Mar-25 15:22:30

Whom were you addressing Anniebach, about Ramadan? Sometimes the posts jump over each other.

Maremia Fri 21-Mar-25 15:20:51

Did we ever get an answer to whose decision it was, to move the location of that tragic music festival, to a place so near the 'border' with Gaza?
Yes Whitewavemark2, and if anyone cares to look at a map, to see how the territory was divided up at the time, you will notice by how much the Israeli faction has 'land grabbed' what was intended for the Palestinians.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 21-Mar-25 15:13:20

Smileless2012

No one's saying that Israel isn't a Jewish State Annie but not all Israeli's are Jewish.

England is still regarded as a Christian country and we all know that not everyone who live here is Christian.

Israel was conceived as a secular state - recognising the plurality of religions , and the need to legislate for all. That didn’t last very long did it, although it is still officially a secular state.

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 15:08:57

Best you correct the poster who stressed Israel attacked Gaza during Ramadan

Maremia Fri 21-Mar-25 14:57:05

Yes Caleo, and Anniebach, there are Christians in Palestine, and they are also under attack by Netanyanhu's thugs. Remember last year the British politician Leyla Moran pleading for help when her relatives, seeking sanctuary in a church, were being sniped on by Israeli soldiers?
Last year's World Day of Prayer was held in honour of 'The Christian Women of Palestine', proof that the Christian world knows they are there.

Smileless2012 Fri 21-Mar-25 14:17:46

No one's saying that Israel isn't a Jewish State Annie but not all Israeli's are Jewish.

England is still regarded as a Christian country and we all know that not everyone who live here is Christian.

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 14:11:54

Right, so Israel is not a Jewish State yet it was claimed so in 1947, many Jews fled there following the Holocaust, 5 Arab countries declared war on Israel 1948, why ?

Smileless2012 Fri 21-Mar-25 13:29:57

That Caleo will depend on whether or not there are any Palestinians left alive, and it's looking increasingly like there wont be any in Gazza.

Caleo Fri 21-Mar-25 13:09:07

Anniebach, you ask"what is appropriate defence?"

Appropriate defence is diplomatic agreement between hostile nations; representatives.

Hamas can never win a war of bombing and civilian casualties ,as Hamas does not have the backing of the US as does Israel. America under Trump is exceedingly right wing as is Netanyahu. Gaza and the West Bank are to be made over into extensions of Israel and the US.

There will be no use for Palestinian people except as a lower class of persons, who will not be allowed to share the luxurious facilities in Gaza and the West Bank once these territories are owned by Israel and America. As you know this is what happened in South Africa under apartheid.