Nothing but nothing, can excuse Israel breaking the cease-fire in Gaza

Anniebach, you do realise that an Israeli is not the same as a Jew?

Do you also realise some Palestinians are Christians?

I don't understand why you would ask me that, it is truly offensive.

I repeat: "All of this is wrong at any time but this is down to Hamas and the Israeli Government."

No, not at all. But whether we agree it is right or not- this will be the result.

Why do you agree that it is right for Netanyahu, with the help ot Trump, to kill all innocent Muslim people in Gaza, West Bank, Palestine, Syria and beyond- because of the 7th of October attacks, and just call it 'legitimate defence' instead of genocide.

Thank you Allira yes both shocked me , can we expect all Muslims across the world to be attacked because of Hamas attack in Oct 2023. Such posts were attacking the Jewish faith,

Anniebach

Bringing religion into this is definitely ‘Rock Bottom And Still
Drilling’ , disgusting , I feel sick, such hatred

Perhaps *Anniebach means these two posts, growstuff?

And killing people during Ramadan is a terrible and unforgiveable act

And in the long run, will make Jewish people hugely more at risk of antisemitisim all around the world- as they will be part of this genocide, whether they approved of it, or not.

One moment we are told it is the Israeli Government and Hamas which are at fault (true), the next we are told that Jewish people around the world are guilty by association and that attacks during Ramadan are worse than st any other time.

All of this is wrong at any time but this is down to Hamas and the Israeli Government.

The BBC released a documentary then quickly withdrew it,
the teenagers commenting were children of Hamas government officials.

All numbers of deaths are released by Hamas government

Anniebach

Bringing religion into this is definitely ‘Rock Bottom And Still
Drilling’ , disgusting , I feel sick, such hatred

What are you on about?

You claim to be a Christian. Do you not have any respect for people of other faiths?

Jaberwok I think the priority has has to be actually trying to provide clean water, sanitation get food, rebuild homes, businesses, any farming, given the state the infrastructure is in.

Not spend scare resources and time to build in preparation for more war?

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There are substantial internal tensions in Israel - todays news is a case in point.

Netanyahu has sacked Ronan Bar the head of Shin Bet (domestic security)

“The move sparked outrage and further inflamed anti-government demonstrations in Jerusalem, which saw thousands of Israelis join forces with protestors opposing Israel's renewed assault on Gaza.”

In theory, he’s sacking him for a failure to anticipate October 23rd events:, but

“The Attorney General Gali Baharav-Miara late last month ordered the police and the Shin Bet to investigate officials within Netanyahu's office over alleged financial ties to Qatar.

A gag order has since been issued on all information relating to the investigation. Netanyahu's Likud Party denies all allegations.”

“Yesh Atid, the centre-right party led by Yair Lapid, said it had filed an appeal on behalf of several opposition parties and denounced the sacking as a "decision taken due to a blatant conflict of interest by the prime minister".

More details
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwygkknzn9yo

I think we can safely say that babies snd children are the collateral damage in every single conflict and war. Despicable, unjust, appalling and utterly inexcusable.

What I fail to understand is why, having been given vast sums of money, the government of Gaza (Hamas) didn't see fit to spend some of that money on civil defence? Surely, bearing in mind their hostile neighbour, and that the first duty of any government is the protection of its citizens, you would have thought that, like Israel, they would have had, at the very least some form of air raid shelters and other facilities for people to go to when necessary? Food and water storage for basic needs and other civil defence arrangements such as we had 80 odd years ago in WW2? This would at least help to minimise casualties, and protect and support ordinary people. Or, here's a thought, perhaps Hamas actually want hundreds of people killed and displaced for propaganda purposes? If so, it's certainly working, but of the two, One cares for its citizens the other clearly does not.

Bringing religion into this is definitely ‘Rock Bottom And Still
Drilling’ , disgusting , I feel sick, such hatred

To other faiths ?

Now Israel demonstrates more cruelty and brutality towards Palestinians for the World to see .
And killing people during Ramadan is a terrible and unforgiveable act .

Surely it’s in the Hamas government interest to protect the people who voted them into power

Oreo

Hamas could give in today and all conflict would be over.They are prolonging the misery in Gaza.

Dream on!

It's in Netanyahu's interest to keep Israel in a state of perpetual war.

Hamas has no incentive to give in. They've hardly got anything left to lose and almost certainly see death by being bombed as preferable to the rest of their lives in an Israeli jail and giving their land away.

Netanyahu scuppered the second phase of the peace negotiations because he has no intention of honouring the Israeli side of the agreement and couldn't give two hoots about the hostages.

Could Hamas be trusted after returning the bodies of a young mother and her two babies and a man over 80 ? The world was shocked, cities lit up their most famous buildings, not in the UK,

Indeed, destroying a whole people, and then expelling those who have survived, without anywhere to go, from their own land, and without a right to return, is NOT APPROPRIATE response. And then to boast about building posh 5* holiday resorts for the 'victors' and divide up the riches with another dictator from the USA, is NOT APPROPRIATE response. And in the long run, will make Jewish people hugely more at risk of antisemitisim all around the world- as they will be part of this genocide, whether they approved of it, or not.

Despite the diabolical horrors of the Holocaust, the German people were not exterminated, aand were not excluded from their land with no right to return, were they?

This is genocide, and nothing else at this stage.

Anniebach why is the cutting of aid and the current bombing, and taking land, "appropriate defence" as things stand right now?

Would it not have been better to continue the slow negotiated hostage release and swapping prisoners?

What is wrong with these people? What is wrong with people who defend Israel's completely disproportionate response?

What is appropriate defence ?

Anniebach

Defence comes after attack

Defence should have been there before an attack. What Israel is doing is not appropriate defence. They have become a killing machine.

No criticism of government of Gaza, Hamas, they carried out
attacks on innocent women, children,, the elderly, they could
release the hostages, they choose not to

You don't need to continue to kill innocent women, children the elderly, or cut off aid, when there was no new threat to Israel.

Attempts to continue the process of a fragile cease fire including hostage release were the alternative to more bombings, more dead.

Netanyahu's new regime are definitely the aggressors in respect of forcing Palestinians away from border regions all the way around Gaza to occupy what they see what is claimed to be a buffer zone but is de facto expansion into Gaza.

I think that the new players in the regime are prepared to sacrifice the hostages.

Hamas could give in today and all conflict would be over.They are prolonging the misery in Gaza.

Defence comes after attack