Nothing but nothing, can excuse Israel breaking the cease-fire in Gaza

Netanyahu wants to stay in Government so is angering Israelis ?

Very few protesters in Israel care about Gazans, but they just understandably want to get the last few hostages back.
The government thinks enough of the pussyfooting around hamas and think a show of strength is the best way to get them back to the negotiating table.They may have it wrong or could well be right.

I'm glad to hear that foxie.

Protests
www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=thousands+of+Israelis+have+been+on+the+streets+of+Tel+Aviv+and+Jerusalem&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:fe121f3a,vid:h4vwIM1zE4U,st:0

Young Palestinian journalist speaks up
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cceCx3-tlyU

The Serbs were also Bosnian, they killed Bosnian Muslims! However, thousands of Israelis have been on the streets of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem protesting against Netanyahu who is putting his own survival in government over the lives of the remaining hostages and those of innocent Gazans.

We are not talking about Bosnia here, however.

But the genocide taking place in Gaza, the West Bank, the whole of Palestine.

So they join the ranks of

Bosnia

No, Whitewave, no!

Bosnian Muslims were murdered by Serbs. Some Bosnians may have helped but Serbianss were the ones who massacred thousands of Bosnians, put Croatians into concentration camps and committed genocide.

Whitewavemark2

But we are talking about a state - Israel - not a religion.

What Israel is doing is simply following the tradition of so many over powerful states, who have used this power to rid themselves of groups of people they deem the enemy.

So they join the ranks of

Bosnia
Cambodia
Sudan
Rwanda
Guatemala

And others.

History will not be kind to Israel.

I agree - Israel will go down on that list in history.

And as far as I know, the only one on it that we are complicit with.(by supplying arms, recognising Israel as an ally & not speaking out).

Babs03

Those who insist no Palestinians are innocent and keep saying this ad nauseum must therefore be very glad to see the butchered children and babies or dead babies in their parents arms that I just saw on the BBC news again.
Obviously they won't be satisfied until all Palestinians are dead or ethnically cleansed from the area.
Just tune into the news and get your kicks, get to see all those nasty/guilty Palestinians dismembered or lying in pools of blood in the hospital.
Oh and then be sure to say it is all just staged, that maybe the blood is ketchup.
God help us!!

I'm not sure they're worthy of God's help.

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

But we are talking about a state - Israel - not a religion.

What Israel is doing is simply following the tradition of so many over powerful states, who have used this power to rid themselves of groups of people they deem the enemy.

So they join the ranks of

Bosnia
Cambodia
Sudan
Rwanda
Guatemala

And others.

History will not be kind to Israel.

They don’t deem anything, hamas and all their many supporters are the enemy.
Still, I expect hamas will be heartened by all this well meaning but wrong support.

Are you suggesting that I support murderous terrorists?

What's happening to the Palestinians is sick Annie.

Babs03

Those who insist no Palestinians are innocent and keep saying this ad nauseum must therefore be very glad to see the butchered children and babies or dead babies in their parents arms that I just saw on the BBC news again.
Obviously they won't be satisfied until all Palestinians are dead or ethnically cleansed from the area.
Just tune into the news and get your kicks, get to see all those nasty/guilty Palestinians dismembered or lying in pools of blood in the hospital.
Oh and then be sure to say it is all just staged, that maybe the blood is ketchup.
God help us!!

Walk away Babs, for your own sanity.

Jeering crowds are not all they seem.

Hard to refuse when your children are being threatened.

Sorry but a sick post, not worthy of a reply

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"I think a shake up is coming for both Gaza and the West Bank and things will have to change."

A "shake up"? Gaza has been bombed almost to the ground and the West Bank is being taken over by illegal settlers! FGS, how much more of a "shake up" can the Palestinians take?

Claremont

No Israeli Government rid of all Palestinians- babies, children, mothers, all, all of them. And take their land. Genocide of the worst order.

Journalists from all over the world show us daily videos of Hamas chanting and celebrating. They never show us all the IDF soldiers beating up, shooting point blank, abusing, raping, torturing, humiliating and triggering Palestinians. Celebrating, dancing, shouting and singing when shooting Palestinians or bombing the hell out of them. Not Hamas, innocent civilians. They do not show us bulldozing family homes, orchards and olive groves, and pushing civilians out of their settlements. They do not show us the systematic looting of those villages and settlements bulldozed to be replaced by row upon row of illegal settlements, settlers beating and shooting the previous inhabitants, with soldiers protecting them and laughing.

No they make sure you do not see them. And if some of us do copy them on here- some will just say 'oh they are filmed by Gazans or Palestinians from the West Bank, so they are just lies.

Did anyone watch 'No Other Land?'. It won an Oscar for the best documentary, and the whole world has seen it for what it is. Not Hamas propaganda, but the reality on the ground

Genocide, is genocide. When the plan is tog et rid of all of them without a right to return, it is genocide.

And every time innocent people die the Israelis say ‘there will be an investigation’ and we never hear any more about it.

Oreo

eazybee

Having seen the release of the hostages, and their condition when paraded in front of the baying mob of Gazans, I think:
Nothing, but nothing, can excuse the behaviour of Gaza.

Exactly.
Jeering crowds who looked as if they would instantly have murdered the paraded hostages if it wasn’t for the terrorists holding them back.Says a lot about them really.Taking pics on their phones.
Even now there is tremendous support for hamas, just as the crowds cheered the slaughter in Israel at the time.Not many
innocents except young children.
Israel will do what it needs to do for its future protection.
Genocide it isn't, tho genocide is what hamas want by the stated aim of killing all Jews.

What do you think the alternative to supporting Hamas should be? Who should the Gazans turn to? What else do they have to lose?

Try putting yourself in the position of a Gazan and imagine how would you would think and what you would do.

Oreo

Not all but very many.
You would think ‘ordinary Gazans’ would be blaming hamas for going into Israel and murdering over a thousand innocent people and for bringing down bombs on their heads and homes, but no not a bit of it.They were delighted by the former and only blame Israel.
Am not sure what can happen in the end to Gaza but it’s guaranteed to be the opposite of what hamas and supporters want.Which is their own fault entirely.

In such a situation, adults are needed!

Not toddlers with tribal notions of tit for tat.

So which is it Oreo? If they weren't innocent civilians what did the IDF get wrong?

State of the art bombs, bulldozers, machine guns, said by Miriam Margoyles !

Of course they are innocent civilians, trying to protect their home and land from ILLEGAL settlers, coming with bulldozers and guns, and protected by the IDF- retaliating with stones against bulldozers and machine guns!

They weren’t innocent civilians, though of course the IDF get things wrong sometimes.Soldiers going into the West Bank never know what’s going to happen or who or when they’ll be attacked by.
I have never agreed with the Israeli settlers either in the past or now in taking land there for what it’s worth.
I think a shake up is coming for both Gaza and the West Bank and things will have to change.

Lily Ebert ‘the holocaust didn’t start with death camps but with words ‘

No Israeli Government rid of all Palestinians- babies, children, mothers, all, all of them. And take their land. Genocide of the worst order.

Journalists from all over the world show us daily videos of Hamas chanting and celebrating. They never show us all the IDF soldiers beating up, shooting point blank, abusing, raping, torturing, humiliating and triggering Palestinians. Celebrating, dancing, shouting and singing when shooting Palestinians or bombing the hell out of them. Not Hamas, innocent civilians. They do not show us bulldozing family homes, orchards and olive groves, and pushing civilians out of their settlements. They do not show us the systematic looting of those villages and settlements bulldozed to be replaced by row upon row of illegal settlements, settlers beating and shooting the previous inhabitants, with soldiers protecting them and laughing.

No they make sure you do not see them. And if some of us do copy them on here- some will just say 'oh they are filmed by Gazans or Palestinians from the West Bank, so they are just lies.

Did anyone watch 'No Other Land?'. It won an Oscar for the best documentary, and the whole world has seen it for what it is. Not Hamas propaganda, but the reality on the ground

Genocide, is genocide. When the plan is tog et rid of all of them without a right to return, it is genocide.

Facts. Hamas rid of Jews

Israeli government rid of Hamas