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Nothing but nothing, can excuse Israel breaking the cease-fire in Gaza

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Claremont Tue 18-Mar-25 18:43:30

- without warning, in the middle of the night- in the middle of Ramadan.

NOTHING.

Oreo Mon 24-Mar-25 19:59:21

I think Trump has lost interest in Gaza now that a deal between Ukraine and Russia isn’t proving as easy peasy as he thought.

AGAA4 Mon 24-Mar-25 19:49:47

If the hostages are not released then the carnage will just go on. If they are released it will all be over quicker.
Netanyahu wants to rid Gaza of Palestinians with Trump's blessing.

Oreo Mon 24-Mar-25 19:47:52

Well, it’s already fairly blitzed.Tbf we don’t know what will happen, hamas will try and drag things out as long as possible tho you can be sure of that.
Up to Israel what they do about it in that case.

Anniebach Mon 24-Mar-25 19:41:43

And if they are not released ?

MayBee70 Mon 24-Mar-25 19:28:52

If Hamas release all of the hostages imo Netanyahu will blitz Gaza.

Anniebach Mon 24-Mar-25 19:26:31

Surely there can be a vote to call for the election next year?

Maremia Mon 24-Mar-25 19:06:58

If they are still at war, he will say they can't have elections. He is gaming it to remain in power, so he can't be prosecuted.
Thank you for the correction about the film.

Anniebach Mon 24-Mar-25 17:54:27

What can be done ?

Aveline Mon 24-Mar-25 17:51:03

Meanwhile thousands more Palestinians will die.

Anniebach Mon 24-Mar-25 17:31:32

If there are mass demonstrations in Israel he has no chance of winning the election next year

Aveline Mon 24-Mar-25 16:56:46

Maremia

Yes Anniebach, the film was awarded an Oscar.

Netanyahu will not come to the UK because, following an investigation of WAR CRIMES against humanity, by, not Gransnet, but by the INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT, an arrest warrant has been issued in his name.

Says it all.

Anniebach Mon 24-Mar-25 15:36:00

Maremia

No Other Land won an Oscar. It took 5 years to make , covers
West Bank, do check .

How To Survive A War Zone was withdrawn by BBC who apologised, a narrator was a 13 year old boy, son of Hamas Government Official, covers Gaza.

I spoke of the latter, it did not win an Oscar West Bank is not Gaza , and the 13 year old boy would have been 8 when work started on that film

Why a film which took 5 years to make was confused with a documentary which covered from 23rd 2023 and Gaza

Maremia Mon 24-Mar-25 15:12:16

Yes Anniebach, the film was awarded an Oscar.

Netanyahu will not come to the UK because, following an investigation of WAR CRIMES against humanity, by, not Gransnet, but by the INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT, an arrest warrant has been issued in his name.

Wyllow3 Mon 24-Mar-25 15:06:06

Anniebach

Peace prospect with Hamas !

Towards cease fire, Annie. You have to try and keep talking, you have to try and keep doing deals.

But this cease fire was broken by the current Israeli regime, by the clearly stated position of Ben-Gvir who came into the cabinet specifically supporting a return to hostilities (and the backing of Trump)

Claremont Mon 24-Mar-25 14:52:16

There is so much evidence out there, first of the warnings called Jericho Wall, and then of warnings given a few days before the attack. Security was stepped up, and the Music Festival should have been cancelled immediately.

This cannot be denied. Well, Netanyahu has tried to deny it, but evidence is clear. His head of military security even resigned due to this failure.

Claremont Mon 24-Mar-25 14:30:22

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Anniebach Mon 24-Mar-25 13:45:19

I do not accept the Israeli government knew of the attack October 2023 and even moved Israelis closer for Hamas to attack more easily.

I know it is not true that the BBC received an Oscar for the documentary they withdrew and apologised for showing,

This is not defending anyone involved in the nightmare. I am saying what I believe is true or not, if many can believe the
Israeli Government were complicit in the Oct 2023 attack , I am at liberty to say i do not believe it

Anniebach Mon 24-Mar-25 11:22:13

Peace prospect with Hamas !

Wyllow3 Mon 24-Mar-25 11:09:10

I think Trump has given "permission/backing" for the idea of "clearing "^them^" out" and for the hardliners to now act as they are, and has damaged fragile peace prospects.

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 10:52:12

Claremont

Nobody has attacked you verbally. What some of us are saying, that you seem to only care about the (real and diabolical) suffering of one side- and not a jot about the suffering of the other women and children, on the other side, which is happening to many 1000s more. As if some are not 'worthy' of our care, sub-human, somewhat. (reminds anyone of other times?).

What some of us are saying, that you seem to only care about the (real and diabolical) suffering of one side

I think, from reading several threads, that could be said of several posters about either side in this conflict.

Any road towards a peaceful settlement seems to have disappeared, especially since Trump was elected.

Anniebach Mon 24-Mar-25 10:48:21

Women and children yet again. Hamas releases alleged number of women and children , 2023 Israel we read number
killed, number of hostages .

Can only be , if numbers true, men are hidden in tunnels which were build for and by Hamas !

Claremont Mon 24-Mar-25 09:24:51

Nobody has attacked you verbally. What some of us are saying, that you seem to only care about the (real and diabolical) suffering of one side- and not a jot about the suffering of the other women and children, on the other side, which is happening to many 1000s more. As if some are not 'worthy' of our care, sub-human, somewhat. (reminds anyone of other times?).

Anniebach Mon 24-Mar-25 09:09:24

Thank you escaped the brutality we have witnessed when the hostages were released must has caused much distress and anger and caused complete lack of ability to trust in any agreement with Hamas.

We read here that Israel planned for that attack October 2023,
Israel are aiming bombs at women and children , if true more women and children are killed where the men ?

When I spoke of the large number of men leaping and shouting at the hostages being released it was said here they were forced to do so by Hamas.

Children were dying of malnutrition yet only signs of malnutrition was so obvious in the hostages.

Even the BBC won an Oscar for a documentary on Gaza, regardless of the fact the BBC withdrew the documentary on
Gaza and apologised for it.

I am verbally attacked for questioning these claims , unlike several here I do. Not have friends in Israel. I questioned what Hamas claims

Aveline Mon 24-Mar-25 08:53:40

All in the so called 'Holy Land'.
Jesus wept.

petra Mon 24-Mar-25 08:47:02

Oreo

Claremont

Anniebach

The BBC documentary come to mind

You mean the Film which won an Oscar for being the best Documentary of the year? Did you watch it btw?

Oh yes, the film pulled by the BBC as it was made by a film company that paid a hamas family.The boy’s father and other family members.So totally true and unbiased.[hmm

Obviously a case of selective memory. This amuses me in that people assume we aren’t ware of these facts.