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Trump is "pissed off" with Putin.

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RosesandLilac Mon 31-Mar-25 08:09:57

LaCrepescule

What do you expect from Trump? The most unstatesman-like individual who ever lived. A megalomaniac idiot in charge of one of the most powerful countries in the world.
Absolutely f…… terrifying.

I totally agree.
The pally pally approach didn’t last long did it? Now Trump’s resorted to his usual name calling and threats I imagine it won’t be long before Putin retaliates- the latter is more powerful than the orange one I fear.

Casdon Mon 31-Mar-25 08:00:24

According to the poll tracker his popularity is waning quite rapidly, it has moved back into the average approval of below 50% as for previous presidents. I suspect it will continue to fall.
www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker
The lack of a clear Democratic opponent at the moment is an issue in his favour, but presumably that’s a temporary issue.

LaCrepescule Mon 31-Mar-25 07:58:40

What do you expect from Trump? The most unstatesman-like individual who ever lived. A megalomaniac idiot in charge of one of the most powerful countries in the world.
Absolutely f…… terrifying.

madeleine45 Mon 31-Mar-25 07:58:36

So now we have the 2 year old Trump stamping in the playground because everyone is not doing what he wants , and is planning to take his ball home!! Well now he is going to face the other bully Putin, but dont think Putin will let him get away with his posturing. Americans seem to like slogans so I suggest
Dump the Trump would be a good one!!

Churchview Mon 31-Mar-25 07:55:55

I know nothing about Mitch McConnell but what a blessed relief to read his words after weeks of drivel from the inarticulate and infantile Trump.

nanna8 Mon 31-Mar-25 07:33:26

Trump is still very popular in the USA. More so than the Democrat opposition. Interesting. A very different population.

M0nica Mon 31-Mar-25 07:13:22

Trump hasn't under estimated Putin's belligerence. He hasn't even thought about it. Trump sees himself as the great deal maker - and that is far as his thought goes.

David49 Mon 31-Mar-25 06:57:52

Trump has underestimated Putins belligerence, his mistake was to start with the statement the war was lost and removing much of Ukraines arms supply, expecting Putins cooperation, that hasn’t happened.

Now he’s got to play catch up, maybe even resupply Ukraine weapons, more sanctions may not work.

Wyllow3 Mon 31-Mar-25 01:23:00

From Former Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell (who is at odds with Trumps administration) -

““When the president’s envoys trumpet the magnanimity of a thuggish autocrat, they do so under the watchful eyes of his friends in Beijing, Tehran, and Pyongyang.

When his representatives in negotiations masquerade as neutral arbiters, or legitimize sham elections, or treat aggressor and victim as morally equivalent...

..... they do so in full view of longtime partners across the globe – some who know the taste of aggression, and some who have good reason to fear its imminent arrival,” McConnell said.

“When American officials court the favor of an adversary at the expense of allies. When they mock our friends to impress an enemy. They reveal their embarrassing naivete

From excellent CNN article
edition.cnn.com/2025/03/28/politics/mcconnell-trump-russia-ukraine/index.html

Wyllow3 Mon 31-Mar-25 01:16:49

I don't think Trump will be able to "make peace" here tho I might be wrong and goodness knows it's needed. Putin wants Ukraine and doesnt care about Trumps desire for mineral rights! Trump doesnt have the abilities he thinks he has, unless his tariffs really can hit Putin as hard as Trump thinks it will.

I dont know if they can have the effect he thinks they will -dont know enough about it - except to alienate.

imaround Mon 31-Mar-25 01:08:57

I am starting to wonder if he knows any other words. His favorite one right now is tariff.

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Mar-25 23:36:57

Oh yes the irony

"NBC News reported that, in a 10-minute phone interview, Trump said he was very angry and "pissed off" when Putin criticised the credibility of Zelensky's leadership, although the president has himself called Ukraine's leader a dictator and demanded that he hold elections"

Parsley3 Sun 30-Mar-25 23:20:29

BBC News - Trump 'very angry' with Putin over ceasefire negotiations
www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20x7z36d56o

Well, well, well, this is a change of tune. Trump is not getting his own way with Putin after all. What a farce it all is.

BlessedArt Sun 30-Mar-25 22:24:53

Apparently babbling nonsense is an acceptable form of presidential communication. God help the US and the planet.

Churchview Sun 30-Mar-25 22:12:38

Trump said, "If Russia and I are unable to make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia's fault - which it might not be... I am going to put secondary tariffs... on all oil coming out of Russia,"

To sum up - if something doesn't happen, and it was their fault, but it might not be, then he might do something.

Is he meeting trouble half way?
Is he talking nonsense?
Or saying absolutely nothing?
If asked, will he deny ever saying any of it?

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Mar-25 21:57:08

He's threatening he'll put tariffs on Russia

"The president added that if Russia is unable to make a deal on "stopping bloodshed in Ukraine" - and Mr Trump felt that Moscow was to blame - then he would put secondary tariffs on "all oil coming out of Russia".

"That would be that if you buy oil from Russia, you can't do business in the United States. There will be a 25% tariff on all oil, a 25 to 50-point tariff on all oil," he said."

But he reckons "Mr Trump said Mr Putin knows he is angry, but added that he has "a very good relationship with him" and "the anger dissipates quickly... if he does the right thing".

As if.

keepingquiet Sun 30-Mar-25 21:14:10

Well that friendship didn't last long did it? There's rarely room in the playground for two bullies. Putin has had much more experience and has lots more henchmen to do his every bidding...

M0nica Sun 30-Mar-25 21:01:16

NanKate

Trump’s opinions, swing one way or another depending on how he is feeling. I would like him to continue to be ‘PO’ with Putin but I don’t trust him an inch.

Putin could outmanouvre and out think Trump in his sleep.

As I have said before Trump has been assessed as having he vocabulary and reading ability of an 8 year old, by more than one knowledgeable source. This must be a guide to his intellectual age as well.

However, anyone who has ever had to deal with a rambling drunk, knows that their thought processes are entirely irrational, as are their actions and that is Trumps biggest weakness - and his greatest strength.

NanKate Sun 30-Mar-25 20:16:23

Trump’s opinions, swing one way or another depending on how he is feeling. I would like him to continue to be ‘PO’ with Putin but I don’t trust him an inch.

BlessedArt Sun 30-Mar-25 20:05:06

Was more expected of President P*ssy Grabber?

A man who uses the above phrase can hardly be expected speak like an adult. The office of the Presidency instantly lost prestige and dignity the moment the multi-bankrupt reality show star was sworn in the first time. His cabinet is filled with drunks, women beaters, and creepy conspiracy theorists. War plans are shared via social media by his bumbling defence team. Him verbalizing being “pissed off” at Putin is hardly scratching the surface of low-level, trashy communication characterizing this regime.

In a lighter note, I love watching clips of the eloquent Barak Obama’s press conferences Vs Trumps. Trump is hilariously inarticulate. I love that his worst nightmare is the exact opposite.

mae13 Sun 30-Mar-25 19:31:33

Very dignified and presidential style language!