Trump is "pissed off" with Putin.

The big rift is between city and rural voters, high income groups are more likely to vote Republican wherever they live, rural USA is really quite conservative. Harris, a liberal Californian was probably the least likely to win over conservative minded voters.

Casdon

Norah

nanna8

I went cruising with Viking a few years back. Many Americans on board and they all loved Trump . We avoided them after a while and dined with the Canadians. More like us in their attitudes and values. These weren’t ‘ignorant and uninformed’ Americans, either- mostly rich businessmen and lawyers. Interesting.

Rich business-persons and lawyers are largely Republicans, not 'ignorant and uninformed' American voters. Prior to 2016 debacle conservative people voted Republican for tax policy protecting their income/assets.

Those two statements don’t necessarily work together though. It may well be true that rich business people and lawyers are mostly republicans, or at least the ones on nice cruises, but that group is relatively small as a percentage of the electorate. So there may well also be Republican voters who are the opposite.

Of course. However, he was able hold and expand that group.

Nobody need approve, but it happened, he's on about 2028.

Trump says he’s considering ways to serve a third term as president. CHRIS MEGERIAN, Associated Press

Updated: Mar 30, 2025 / 12:46 PM CDT

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — President Donald Trump said Sunday that “I’m not joking” about trying to serve a third term, the clearest indication he is considering ways to breach a constitutional barrier against continuing to lead the country after his second term ends in early 2029.

“There are methods which you could do it,” Trump said in a telephone interview with NBC News.

He also said “it is far too early to think about it.”

The 22nd Amendment, which was added to the Constitution in 1951 after President Franklin D. Roosevelt was elected four times in a row, says “no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.”

NBC’s Kristen Welker asked Trump if one potential avenue to a third term was having Vice President JD Vance run for the top job and “then pass the baton to you.”

“Well, that’s one,” Trump responded. “But there are others too. There are others.”

“Can you tell me another?” Welker asked.

“No,” Trump replied.

Vance’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Associated Press.

Trump, who would be 82 at the end of his second term, was asked whether he would want to keep serving in “the toughest job in the country” at that point.

“Well, I like working,” the president said.

He suggested that Americans would go along with a third term because of his popularity. He falsely claimed to have “the highest poll numbers of any Republican for the last 100 years.”

Gallup data shows President George W. Bush reaching a 90% approval rating after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. His father, President George H.W. Bush, hit 89% following the Gulf War in 1991.

Trump has maxed out at 47% in Gallup data during his second term, despite claiming to be “in the high 70s in many polls, in the real polls.”

Trump maybe thought that intimidating Zelensky got him the deal he wanted.. if he he thinks he can use the same approach with Putin he is extremely misguided.. and sets himself up for severe repercussions

Norah

nanna8

I went cruising with Viking a few years back. Many Americans on board and they all loved Trump . We avoided them after a while and dined with the Canadians. More like us in their attitudes and values. These weren’t ‘ignorant and uninformed’ Americans, either- mostly rich businessmen and lawyers. Interesting.

Rich business-persons and lawyers are largely Republicans, not 'ignorant and uninformed' American voters. Prior to 2016 debacle conservative people voted Republican for tax policy protecting their income/assets.

Those two statements don’t necessarily work together though. It may well be true that rich business people and lawyers are mostly republicans, or at least the ones on nice cruises, but that group is relatively small as a percentage of the electorate. So there may well also be Republican voters who are the opposite.

To be fair, Mr Trump is not known for his extensive and thoughtful use of language, is he?
Does this reflect his cognitive capacity?
I fear that it might.

nanna8

I went cruising with Viking a few years back. Many Americans on board and they all loved Trump . We avoided them after a while and dined with the Canadians. More like us in their attitudes and values. These weren’t ‘ignorant and uninformed’ Americans, either- mostly rich businessmen and lawyers. Interesting.

Rich business-persons and lawyers are largely Republicans, not 'ignorant and uninformed' American voters. Prior to 2016 debacle conservative people voted Republican for tax policy protecting their income/assets.

David49

This is too serious to be thinking in schoolyard bully terms, many lives are being lost, while 2 super powers squabble. If Trump continues on the present line the threat to Ukraine and the rest of Europe increases, do not underestimate the threat to us all if the US fails to get a settlement.

I think the first comparison was very apposite, because one of the parties is behaving like a schoolyard bully. The other is much more cunning, more like the fox that creeps around the school food waste bins knocking them over and eating the contents.

I do not think anyone is unaware just how serious the situation is or where it could lead.

Only 48% of Americans have passports (up from 3% in 1990), so those on a particular cruise are unlikely to be representative. I have no idea what the percentage of 'truly outsize' Americans might be, though.

nanna8

I went cruising with Viking a few years back. Many Americans on board and they all loved Trump . We avoided them after a while and dined with the Canadians. More like us in their attitudes and values. These weren’t ‘ignorant and uninformed’ Americans, either- mostly rich businessmen and lawyers. Interesting.

Well, presumably it’ll largely be the richer Americans who can afford Viking cruises. The less well off have to make do with the relative cheapies that sail out of Miami - at least that’s what I’ve gathered from a bargain-loving ex colleague who’s been on several of those. She was (is) a size 18-20 and one reason she really liked those cruises was that she always felt unusually slim among so many truly outsize Americans.

MaizieD

Churchview

Thank you for explaining how serious things are David49. It wouldn't have crossed my mind otherwise.

That made me 😂

“The USA is a threat to all of us whether or not there is a deal in Ukraine.”

The threat from the US is that it might pull out of Europe and NATO, then we would have to defend our own liberal freedoms without their backup. The reality is that it is only the US that has the power to fight to maintain the freedoms of the western world.

If Europe was left to fend for itself we would have far more important worries than a few Greenlanders not getting independance

Churchview

Thank you for explaining how serious things are David49. It wouldn't have crossed my mind otherwise.

That made me 😂

Thank you for explaining how serious things are David49. It wouldn't have crossed my mind otherwise.

I went cruising with Viking a few years back. Many Americans on board and they all loved Trump . We avoided them after a while and dined with the Canadians. More like us in their attitudes and values. These weren’t ‘ignorant and uninformed’ Americans, either- mostly rich businessmen and lawyers. Interesting.

BlessedArt

nanna8

Trump is still very popular in the USA. More so than the Democrat opposition. Interesting. A very different population.

He is popular amongst those he has always been popular amongst. The people that hate him and would never vote for him are largely the same. He benefitted from weak democratic leadership. Let’s not pretend he suddenly turned the entire US population. I cannot say I met or spoke to a single Trump supporter on my very recent visit. Not one.

Where in the US were you? My sister lives in a very ‘blue’ east coast state and I doubt I’d find more than a very small minority of Trump supporters there.

However there’s a whole huge swathe between the coasts which largely tends to vote Red, particularly in what is called the Bible Belt.
Trump knows very well how to appeal to what politicians like to call ‘ordinary’ people, generally not ‘college’ educated, and a million miles from the liberal, metropolitan elites.

They are gutting social security, HHS, and all agencies that deal with poor. Republicans are trying to force banks to raise overdraft fees, because that affects the poor. They are trying to kill public education because that has helped elevate the poor, as well as federal jobs because minorities have been able to gain through federal employment. This is a white supremicist regime trying to restore a past that got the previous slavery supporting group of thugs firmly beaten back down where they belong. He and Musk think they will destroy the Constitution and get a third term. These people are pushing their nation toward a civil war. He’s pissed off with Putin. He better hope Putin doesn’t get pissed off with him. He wants to engage on conflict everywhere, home, abroad. That’s his problem. He is too stupid to learn that fighting wars on multiple fronts and isolating allies is not a winning formula. But his daddy bought his degrees, he never earned them. So I’m guessing he skipped his history lessons.

nanna8

Trump is still very popular in the USA. More so than the Democrat opposition. Interesting. A very different population.

He is popular amongst those he has always been popular amongst. The people that hate him and would never vote for him are largely the same. He benefitted from weak democratic leadership. Let’s not pretend he suddenly turned the entire US population. I cannot say I met or spoke to a single Trump supporter on my very recent visit. Not one.

Not the point, I know, but TBH I’m surprised if he actually said ‘pissed off’. Yanks usually say just ‘pissed’ to mean angry/cross, whereas in the U.K. it means drunk. Though some on this side of the pond do now use the Yank usage, which I will admit does really piss me off!

he wants a nobel peace prize if it wasn't so ridiculous it would be amusing.

he wants a nobel peace prize

I think that we all realise that the USA as it is governed at the moment is a threat to us all. It is not being underestimated.

David49

This is too serious to be thinking in schoolyard bully terms, many lives are being lost, while 2 super powers squabble. If Trump continues on the present line the threat to Ukraine and the rest of Europe increases, do not underestimate the threat to us all if the US fails to get a settlement.

The USA is a threat to all of us whether or not there is a deal in Ukraine.

Greenland, Central America, Canada are already being eyed by Trump. Israel is being supported by the USA and is now attacking Lebanon wherever it chooses.

Domestically in the USA, women and all minorities are being deprived of their human rights eg. abortion regulations, deportations of citizens, stealth removal of voting rights etc.

Trump and Co are inflaming situations that already exist.

I have no trust in Trump to do anything other than to line his own pockets and those of his friends. Billionaires are pulling all the strings!

Agree. It is very easy to knock Trump and most of us think he deserves it but ultimately he holds a position of power in the world and his actions and dealings will affect us all.

This is too serious to be thinking in schoolyard bully terms, many lives are being lost, while 2 super powers squabble. If Trump continues on the present line the threat to Ukraine and the rest of Europe increases, do not underestimate the threat to us all if the US fails to get a settlement.

Trump's 'thought' processes over the last few months -

I am King of the world and everyone will do my bidding.
Get a posse of bullies around me to make everyone afraid.
Who's the biggest bully - I need him on my side.
Be seen to relentlessly bully the man in the weakest position - that's always worked a dream in the past.
Oh! People aren't liking that. Why? Weirdos!
They want me to bully the big man too? Sad, but I can do that.
Be seen to bully big man.
I am King of the world and everyone will do my bidding.