Why is Musk going - and when.

In a similar situation to UK Subs, a French researcher was denied entry to the US earlier this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticisms of the Trump administration.

In response to the news Philippe Baptiste, France’s minister of higher education and research, said: “This measure was apparently taken by the American authorities because the researcher’s phone contained exchanges with colleagues and friends in which he expressed a personal opinion on the Trump administration’s research policy.”

Three members of British band the UK Subs were refused entry to the US and put through an ordeal by airport officials and the police.

"“Two police officers escorted me to another section of LAX, where I found Stefan and Marc already detained in a cold holding pen, along with a group of Colombian, Chinese, and Mexican detainees. My luggage, phone, and passport were confiscated.”

These aren't young threatening men - they are aged 57 to 69.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/21/uk-subs-band-detained-deported

David49

Wyllow3

Protection against whom?

Seems to me the US is getting less "Free" and is going into isolation, and the power Trump imagined he had in "sorting" Ukraine and the Middle East showed him the limits of his powers.

The US is free enough, we can travel there, they can travel here freely, they are not going to lock my sister in law up for supporting Harris.

Protection against Russia or any other invaders, Europe can do very little on its own and won’t be able to for at least 10 yrs.

Of course we could decide not to do business with Trumps US, no exports, no imports, until that day arrives we make a deal with him.

Well they locked up a British girl and put her in chains for unwittingly having the wrong visa.

imaround

Lord I wish that was the case.

You’re certainly not alone

Lord I wish that was the case.

imaround If only it was!!

Perhaps we will all wake up and find Trumpie isn’t POTUS, it was all a dream!!

Just like Dallas!

BlessedArt

It’s not hyperbolic, FGT.

He literally destroyed institutions, particularly those aimed at helping the poor or minorities. Medical and scientific research institutions such as the NIH have been destroyed. The Education Dept has been destroyed. It’s only hyperbolic to those that have the luxury of watching from an ocean away. Iamaround is in the States. I think she’d know

It doesn't matter what evidence is shown on what Trump and Musk are doing, even when we can see people slives being ruined in the US. FGT chooses not to believe any of it. It's all hyperbole now. Before it was an exaggeration.

I am happy to be proven wrong at any point. So far, that hasn't happened.

Additionally, American citizens are reporting being stopped and detained at the border coming back from Mexico. What are the chances these Americans are not white citizens? I’d say pretty high. Not to mention the students being detained and deported who were there perfectly legally. I am not sure about this “freedom” when people are being targeted due to race and political opposition. Law firms are being targeted for doing their jobs. I can only surmise that a type of privileged allows one to downplay what’s happening.

“Been liberated of about $60k in retirement savings since January 6th. 32 years of work, paid taxes, took nothing from the
government, and as I approach the finish line this orange (deleted) kicks me in the nuts. Happy Days and thanks to all the Drumpf supporters who made this possible.”

The above is lifted directly from Facebook. An ex colleague of mine who moved to the USA about 33 years ago! He’s one angry gentleman!

@David,

The Trump administration just deported an American from Maryland to a prison in El Salvador, defying a judge’s order to return the man home. No trial, no proven crime. The prosecutor who told the judge the truth about the government’s error has been suspended for telling the truth in court. Maybe it’s free for those of a certain skin colour, but it is becoming decidedly less so by the day.

It’s not hyperbolic, FGT.

He literally destroyed institutions, particularly those aimed at helping the poor or minorities. Medical and scientific research institutions such as the NIH have been destroyed. The Education Dept has been destroyed. It’s only hyperbolic to those that have the luxury of watching from an ocean away. Iamaround is in the States. I think she’d know

Wyllow3

Protection against whom?

Seems to me the US is getting less "Free" and is going into isolation, and the power Trump imagined he had in "sorting" Ukraine and the Middle East showed him the limits of his powers.

The US is free enough, we can travel there, they can travel here freely, they are not going to lock my sister in law up for supporting Harris.

Protection against Russia or any other invaders, Europe can do very little on its own and won’t be able to for at least 10 yrs.

Of course we could decide not to do business with Trumps US, no exports, no imports, until that day arrives we make a deal with him.

Protection against whom?

Seems to me the US is getting less "Free" and is going into isolation, and the power Trump imagined he had in "sorting" Ukraine and the Middle East showed him the limits of his powers.

It’s hard to see the “end game”, others have refereed to the US as “leader of the free world”, because of their military power “protector” too.

There isnt likely to be any other one leader, so is all this about us paying protection money to the US, taxing us for its leadership and protection?

In yesterday's New York Times:

"E.U. Prepares Major Penalties Against Elon Musk’s X

European regulators are considering fining X more than $1 billion, after weighing the risks of further antagonizing Mr. Musk and President Trump.

the article has a paywall but full details

www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/elon-musk-x-european-union-digital-services-act-rcna199785

(go EU, go)

Maremia

Is he going before Trump gives him the push? After his defeat in Winsconsin.

He's on a short-term contract, just long enough to cause utter mayhem.

glasshalffullagain

*Tech multi-billionaire Musk has posted a series of messages on his social media site X, accusing Sir Keir Starmer of failing to prosecute gangs that systematically groomed and raped young girls, and calling for safeguarding minister Jess Phillips to be jailed*

Anybody who enjoyed joining in with this care to comment?

Would that make it a thread about a thread?

Are you asking posters who commented on that thread to comment on here?
I'm a bit

Is he going before Trump gives him the push? After his defeat in Winsconsin.

Musk has caused chaos in the US so job done and he can go.
In the UK he is like an irritating little wasp that tries to ruin your picnic.

petra

glasshalffullagain

Tech multi-billionaire Musk has posted a series of messages on his social media site X, accusing Sir Keir Starmer of failing to prosecute gangs that systematically groomed and raped young girls, and calling for safeguarding minister Jess Phillips to be jailed

Anybody who enjoyed joining in with this care to comment?

You can read all 23 pages of comments.
Just put it in the search facility.

Cheers for that. Always there, ready to help.

In light of the news that Musk is bailing out, I wondered if any of those so impressed by his sudden interest in abused girls would care to comment further?

Maybe not.

glasshalffullagain

*Tech multi-billionaire Musk has posted a series of messages on his social media site X, accusing Sir Keir Starmer of failing to prosecute gangs that systematically groomed and raped young girls, and calling for safeguarding minister Jess Phillips to be jailed*

Anybody who enjoyed joining in with this care to comment?

You can read all 23 pages of comments.
Just put it in the search facility.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

imaround

It doesn't matter if or when he leaves at this point. He had already destroyed our institutions and left a wake of destruction.

It will take decades to recover, if we ever do.

Blimey.
Hyperbole much?

It is not hyperbole. imaround is right regarding the wake of destruction - the reputation of the USA as far as the rest of the world is concerned has been very seriously eroded, and it will take many years to recover. Trump has made history, there is no doubt about that.

Having engaged in several threads on this topic glasshalffullagain - there was one recently about Musk, Tommy Robinson and that topic, its a no thanks unless it gets tangled up in some recent stuff where Musk tries to apply pressure on the UK with some edict or other.

glasshalffullagain

*Tech multi-billionaire Musk has posted a series of messages on his social media site X, accusing Sir Keir Starmer of failing to prosecute gangs that systematically groomed and raped young girls, and calling for safeguarding minister Jess Phillips to be jailed*

Anybody who enjoyed joining in with this care to comment?

I didn’t engage ever. 🤷‍♀️

imaround

It doesn't matter if or when he leaves at this point. He had already destroyed our institutions and left a wake of destruction.

It will take decades to recover, if we ever do.

Blimey.
Hyperbole much?