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Why is Musk going - and when.
(61 Posts)Officially according to the White House Musk
“"Elon Musk and President Trump have both publicly stated that Elon will depart from public service as a special government employee when his incredible work at DOGE is complete” (thats the end of May)
Politico however points out to the many tensions and conflicts caused by him in the administration, to the point where Musk is becoming more of a liability than an asset.
It can be argued that he has acted as s shield for Trump on the DOGE cuts, but he’s also made an almighty mess with some of them that has created contradictory messages and unknown effects that could last for a long time and can still “rebound” and give cause for law suits and demonstrations against the administration.
www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/04/02/trump-musk-leaving-political-liability-00265784
Whether it will stop him making pronouncments on X how we in Europe should conduct ourselves, and stop his interference in our domestic matters, including possibly giving large amounts of money to affect UK politics, campaigning for example for Tommy Robinson, is another matter.
Musk posted a bit about Freidman to Musk followers.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otk4FSZKq00
Perhaps he is hoping to pressure POTUS?
imaround
What is really sad about RFK is that he actually has some good ideas that I would love being implemented. Like no high fructose corn syrup or artificial dyes in our food.
Unfortunately, due his desire to put people on anti-depressants on work farms to "cure" them and his anti-proven vaccine stance, the cons outweigh any benefits he would have.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. These ideas that JFK has about high fructose corn syrup and artificial dies are neither new nor revolutionary to those of us in healthcare. Money over people has always been the name of the game, so the corporations and their interests were always put before the people in terms of regulations no matter which side of the aisle was in charge. It just gets worse under Republican control due to deregulation. It didn’t stop some of the better paediatricians from imploring parents to be choosy about nutritious food choices for children. Even school districts in states with funding tried to provide healthy food choices, but these programmes received some federal funding which is being cut as well. Him taking this role is absolutely talking out of both sides of his mouth, and as a proven liar it’s expected.
I agree his cons outweigh his pros…in a dramatic fashion. I just cannot agree that any part of RFK jr is qualified as non-clinical conspiracy theorist driving public health policy. The damage he is doing and will continue to do will take years to fix. He wants attention and power like every other egomaniac employed by Trump, and people will literally die because of it.
Chocolatelovinggran
Mr Kennedy has an explanation for the volatility of the stock market. He is happy to share it with us. The investors are jittery, because they are short of Omega3 in their system. If all investors took some cod liver oil, they would feel more calm and the stock market would settle - Simples.
Who knew?
Kennedy’s brain was fried by the drugs he took I know a few other junkies that have a weird view of reality.
The reason shares are volatile is because speculators can make money buying and selling shares, so far it’s been mostly short selling that will reverse soon, there was a lot of profit taking yesterday.
It’s nothing to do with the actual value of a company.
Mr Kennedy has an explanation for the volatility of the stock market. He is happy to share it with us. The investors are jittery, because they are short of Omega3 in their system. If all investors took some cod liver oil, they would feel more calm and the stock market would settle - Simples.
Who knew?
Wyllow3
In a similar situation to UK Subs, a French researcher was denied entry to the US earlier this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticisms of the Trump administration.
In response to the news Philippe Baptiste, France’s minister of higher education and research, said: “This measure was apparently taken by the American authorities because the researcher’s phone contained exchanges with colleagues and friends in which he expressed a personal opinion on the Trump administration’s research policy.”
Yet this is the administration that is lecturing Europe about free speech.
Golly, imaround, I have read your link about Mr Kennedy and his pronouncements.
I agree with your disquiet about this man being given a job in which he has any saying matters medical.
In fact, in the words of my grandmother, I wouldn't regard him as fit to "run a whelk stall".
He had a hand in killing 83 people, most children, in Samoa due to his anti-vaccine stance. 2 children have died here. While that may not be his fault, the toxic Vitamin A poisoning is his fault.
Doctors reported that for some of these kids, the liver damage may be permanent.
It's just that someone who has been through all that really you would have thought had more empathy. He's arrogant in his beliefs and borderline dangerous in that position.
Kennedy was a heroin addict for 14 years or something like that. I am so happy that he is clean after all those years, but family have gone on record that he himself brought addiction to their door and his brother died of an overdose in the 80's. I am sure there are 2 sides to the story, and I am glad he got clean. But I still don't think he is the best person to run any medical centered branch of the government.
This substack has 15 fact about RFK that you may not know.
chriscillizza.substack.com/p/15-very-weird-facts-about-robert
Dead bears, the whale carcass bone isn't even on this list I don't think, Ivermectin to cure Covid, Raw milk and more.
Though I too wonder if the CIA killed JFK, so I cant fault that.
Macadia
Wyllow3
But a lot of Republicans will have MH problems of varying kinds. How are they supposed to feel about this?
and Musk
“There are times when I have sort of a … negative chemical state in my brain, like depression I guess, or depression that’s not linked to any negative news, and ketamine is helpful for getting one out of the negative frame of mind,” Musk told Lemon. Musk added that he has a prescription for the drug from “an actual, real doctor” and uses “a small amount once every other week or something like that.Ketamine is a legally prescribed anti depressant medication in the US.
Yes, it's just the irony of what Kennedy suggests in that situation.
If he keeps this up Macadia, he wont make it that far, hopefully. Depends on how many Republicans push back between now and then.
I feel that, for me, 2028 is so far off right now I cant even think about it. Even 2026 seems like a lifetime away. Right now I am looking at a month at a time, sadly. It is not out of the realm of possibility to think that we could be in the midst of a civil war in one months time! Or, for that matter, a World War the way he is going.
I feel as though these possible scenarios are so out of place normal, I am crazy for thinking it. But at the same time, every day he ups the bar in ridiculous decisions.
Recommendations are going out to the masses to start preparing for a recession. Consumers are pulling back, cutting back to necessities and stocking up needed items. I am not the only person to wonder what is coming and try to prepare I think. Anything is possible at this point.
imaround
Absolutely 100%. Trump is leading the charge, unconstitutional and illegal as it is.
Trump has been dodging rules and regulations his whole life. That will never change. He will be up for a third term in a few years Im sure.
Wyllow3
But a lot of Republicans will have MH problems of varying kinds. How are they supposed to feel about this?
and Musk
“There are times when I have sort of a … negative chemical state in my brain, like depression I guess, or depression that’s not linked to any negative news, and ketamine is helpful for getting one out of the negative frame of mind,” Musk told Lemon. Musk added that he has a prescription for the drug from “an actual, real doctor” and uses “a small amount once every other week or something like that.
Ketamine is a legally prescribed anti depressant medication in the US.
It is just another item on the long list of "nothing they do makes sense".
Sadly, RFK suggested Vitamin A for these families and multiple kids ended up being treated for Vit A toxicity.
www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/texas-children-poisoned-rfk-jr-vitamin-a-measles-treatment/
But a lot of Republicans will have MH problems of varying kinds. How are they supposed to feel about this?
and Musk
“There are times when I have sort of a … negative chemical state in my brain, like depression I guess, or depression that’s not linked to any negative news, and ketamine is helpful for getting one out of the negative frame of mind,” Musk told Lemon. Musk added that he has a prescription for the drug from “an actual, real doctor” and uses “a small amount once every other week or something like that.
Absolutely 100%. Trump is leading the charge, unconstitutional and illegal as it is.
Musk is not doing anything his boss has not ordered him to do. The tragic blame with spending audits and department down-sizing in the US should fall on Trump.
I wish I was kidding.
www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/04/rfk-wellness-farms-mental-health/682293/
Who do you think is going to replace the migrant farm workers? 
Surely you are joking? a leading figure of the government is now attacking people with Mental Health, suggesting work farms?
How is that going down with the many ordinary voters who need that sort of help? is this widely known?
What is really sad about RFK is that he actually has some good ideas that I would love being implemented. Like no high fructose corn syrup or artificial dyes in our food.
Unfortunately, due his desire to put people on anti-depressants on work farms to "cure" them and his anti-proven vaccine stance, the cons outweigh any benefits he would have.
Speaking of cuts to the CDC, anti-vaxer conspiracy theorist Robert F. Kennedy Jr had to pay a visit to Texas over the last couple of days. Why? Because the Measles outbreak with 600 and counting known infections has just killed another unvaccinated child.
I’m guessing those cuts to the CDC are supposed to help the situation?
His anti-vaccination stance is “safe enough” I suppose. Make America Healthier by cutting funding to health programs that educate and provide free vaccinations! Trump and co are brilliant at putting America first
according to some onlookers.
You might want to stay off US based Cruise ships too nanna8. There is speculation that employee cuts to the CDC will halt the Vessel Sanitation Program for US ports.
We already deal with outbreaks of mostly gastrointestinal issues on cruise ships. I cant imagine how bad it will be once no one is watching close enough.
Indeed nanna8- I have found, on previous visits to the US, that I am asked, often, by enthusiastic locals - " What do you think of our lovely country/ state/ city?" and " What do you think of our President?"
An honest response to the latter question would see me bound for El Salvador in a nanosecond.
Best I wait until 2029.
Well that’s the US crossed off the bucket list. It will save a bit of money at least.
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