Strewth- a totally different point of view

Followed your link, Freya. Can't find the news story you are citing.

imaround

Please don't use X for information. It has become a gathering place for neo-nazis. In fact, Musks own AI fact checker often corrects the claims he himself makes. Advertisers stopped spending money there because it got so bad. And instead of stopping the behavior, Musk sued to try and het the courts to force advertisers back.

At the very least, I suggest also joining Bluesky to get a balanced look at both sides of what is going on.

After researching both for bias, think I'll give both a big miss.
Government censorship, scam accounts, celebrity impersonation, propaganda and a user revolt over a journalist accused of demonizing trans people — these are just some of the hurdles faced by the nascent social media platform Bluesky.22 Dec 2024
www.nbcnews.com
Bluesky's growing pains - NBC News

I don't think X is an echo chamber, I have feminists, right wing, left wing, etc on my feed. I have in my time followed Owen Jones and Jordan Peterson. Both of whom the feminists hate . Obviously you can make it an echo chamber if you wish, but that is true of any site.

Galaxy

I like X, it gives a view outside the middle class nonsense that is often considered important. My feed is full of feminists not nazis. The fact that the community notes system corrects claims is a good thing.

If you confine yourself to your own echo chamber X is fine.

I like X, it gives a view outside the middle class nonsense that is often considered important. My feed is full of feminists not nazis. The fact that the community notes system corrects claims is a good thing.

Personally I don’t have or look at ‘X’ , not my sort of social media anymore than Twitter was in the past.

Please don't use X for information. It has become a gathering place for neo-nazis. In fact, Musks own AI fact checker often corrects the claims he himself makes. Advertisers stopped spending money there because it got so bad. And instead of stopping the behavior, Musk sued to try and het the courts to force advertisers back.

At the very least, I suggest also joining Bluesky to get a balanced look at both sides of what is going on.

nanna8

undines

How, exactly, does one check THE FACTS? For the vast majority of news, we only have our chosen media outlet to go by. I think it behoves us all to question, question and question again. As for that wretched term 'far right' - anyone would think a goodly proportion of our country was akin to Ghengis Khan. Time we stopped labelling, stopped believing (often what we want to believe) and started trying to understand

It is very ,very hard to get the ‘facts’ from any of our media. We/they are just as biased as anyone else, including the Chinese. They only tell us what the government and those in power behind the scenes want. In the West we hear one thing, in the Middle East, Asia and Africa a different point of view is followed. We think we are superior and perhaps more evolved than others but I seriously doubt this . Just a wide reading from different regimes gives a bit of a clue. However, people hand out labels to all those who don’t agree with their own personal beliefs . I suppose the world has always been this way, nothing changes.
Thank you undines for your thought provoking post.

Do you read The conversation nanna8? I find that, which is an Australian organisation, often has good investigations into the way media portrays situations, it unpicks lies and myths.

The main reason I joined X.
Not that I go on there as often, nowadays.
I wanted to know how the rest of the world was thinking. Normal people's viewpoints.

I actaully ended up thinking that the media were not that far out. On the whole. If reading with discernment.
And ignoring alarmist headlines.
And certain journalists. Even from chosen newspapers and sites.

I was pleasantly surprised.

undines

How, exactly, does one check THE FACTS? For the vast majority of news, we only have our chosen media outlet to go by. I think it behoves us all to question, question and question again. As for that wretched term 'far right' - anyone would think a goodly proportion of our country was akin to Ghengis Khan. Time we stopped labelling, stopped believing (often what we want to believe) and started trying to understand

It is very ,very hard to get the ‘facts’ from any of our media. We/they are just as biased as anyone else, including the Chinese. They only tell us what the government and those in power behind the scenes want. In the West we hear one thing, in the Middle East, Asia and Africa a different point of view is followed. We think we are superior and perhaps more evolved than others but I seriously doubt this . Just a wide reading from different regimes gives a bit of a clue. However, people hand out labels to all those who don’t agree with their own personal beliefs . I suppose the world has always been this way, nothing changes.
Thank you undines for your thought provoking post.

petra

Fancythat
in very affluent countries it might not be as big an issue
This article disputes your claim above.
As do I. Wealthy countries want to hang onto everything they have, whereas the poor have nothing to loose.

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No matter what the people who agree with him think, he is a criminal, a liar a bankrupt several times, a misogynist a d he dorsnt even know the history of his own country. What he's doing will have a devastating effect on a little of people inside and outside the USA. It never does any good to make do many enemies.

imaround

This article just popped up. Lots if younger challenged to the top aging establishment dems.

I think we will see some huge turnovers in 26.

www.politico.com/news/2025/04/09/democrats-age-primary-campaigns-032542

I think this is very relevant and necessary for the future opposition. It's not the first time post an election a Party has had to reconsider its roots and its path ahead, as in the UK the Labour Party did post our 2019 election imaround.

Trumps policies are a warning to us in terms of what can happen if a far right party gains power - however we have a stronger independent judiciary.

Of course they think Trump is the bee's legs - the rising costs of groceries and healthcare will not affect them. A President who chooses gold and dinner over the return of the bodies of dead soldiers is not my kind of guy. www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-skips-dover-soldiers-golf_n_67effa46e4b0bb67eb7acc1a

This article just popped up. Lots if younger challenged to the top aging establishment dems.

I think we will see some huge turnovers in 26.

www.politico.com/news/2025/04/09/democrats-age-primary-campaigns-032542

Bluecat

Sorry, pressed post by accident. Wanted to say that, in my daughter's opinion it's a mistake to think Trump's supporters are all MAGA maniacs. Some areas of the USA are bleak due to the failure of their industries and consequent unemployment. Those people want the jobs to come back and will believe any liar who promises to bring them back.

Of course your daughter is correct.

The midAmerica automobile rustbelt is an example, as are the coal and steel areas. Boeing airplane maufacturing is another.

Blue cat - similar issues are live in the UK. Hence Brexit and support for Reform

Bluecat

Sorry, pressed post by accident. Wanted to say that, in my daughter's opinion it's a mistake to think Trump's supporters are all MAGA maniacs. Some areas of the USA are bleak due to the failure of their industries and consequent unemployment. Those people want the jobs to come back and will believe any liar who promises to bring them back.

Absolutely, spot on.

Fancythat
in very affluent countries it might not be as big an issue
This article disputes your claim above.
As do I. Wealthy countries want to hang onto everything they have, whereas the poor have nothing to loose.

Iam64

Trump’s policies are likely to increase attempts by people affected, like the Vietnamese, to immigrate to Europe where they hope for better economic opportunites

I suspect that China will offer help to countries like Vietnam and others.

Sorry, pressed post by accident. Wanted to say that, in my daughter's opinion it's a mistake to think Trump's supporters are all MAGA maniacs. Some areas of the USA are bleak due to the failure of their industries and consequent unemployment. Those people want the jobs to come back and will believe any liar who promises to bring them back.

My daughter lives in the USA and, in her opinion, i

Trump’s policies are likely to increase attempts by people affected, like the Vietnamese, to immigrate to Europe where they hope for better economic opportunites

Yes Galaxy. A fine example of that is the number of Unions and Union voters who who supported Trump. Which is the opposite of their best interests.

I, and other voters like me, are loudly holding the Dems feet to the fire and condemning their lack of action.

I realize that the Dems do not have much power in Congress, which will limit them for now. But the worst part is the Schumers and Pelosis catapulting to Republicans and Trump on nominations and budgets. They hold responsibility and will answer to that in the next election cycle, if we make it that far.

I absolutely agree that the Democrats lost the election. It is I think to do with the left leaning parties moving further and further away from 'working people'.