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Why the silence over the Red Crescent killings?

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Apr-25 11:01:23

Or is it too awful to contemplate?

Maremia Mon 14-Apr-25 18:52:49

Don't know how it can be stopped, but bombing the last functioning hospital? Killing a child begging for help? I suppose if the IDF didn't have the weaponry? How much does the UK provide?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 14-Apr-25 16:16:59

I do know that it tends to become an echo chamber, but is is astonishing the level of protest on Palestine's behalf going on throughout the world.

Mind you kill more Palestinians does not have quite the same ring does it😡

Wyllow3 Mon 14-Apr-25 14:58:35

Probably better to be practical and continue to describe both what is actually happening both day by day and then the bigger politics of what Netanyahu's regime is doing, the voices increasingly coming out from social media from within Palestine asking to be heard separate from Hamas, and how we might ask our own government to respond as well as keeping a sharp eye out for the USA's involvement.

pascal30 Mon 14-Apr-25 14:42:43

Allira

The beginning of what?

Just because a lot of people think is is about something does not make it so.

or not so.. it's all speculation..

Allira Mon 14-Apr-25 13:39:49

The beginning of what?

Just because a lot of people think is is about something does not make it so.

pascal30 Mon 14-Apr-25 13:36:38

Allira

Caleo

Palestinians are being wiped out, not with death camps and human ovens, but with starvation, landlessness, and epidemic. These are more insidious than what went on in Nazi Germany.

Also, the US, and we too, view Israel as the point of the sword that defends our dependence on the financial corporations that make for our economic growth.

"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,. Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,. Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

There has been worse, worse will come.

However horrendous this is, it is not the Apocalypse

But isn't it the beginning? a lot of people think it is..

Allira Mon 14-Apr-25 11:41:07

Well, Trump's about as much use as a chocolate teapot. We know what his end game is unless he was bluffing. Who knows? Not even himself.

Smileless2012 Mon 14-Apr-25 11:18:28

But who can stop it Allira?

Allira Mon 14-Apr-25 11:17:29

This needs to end. We cannot enable it any longer. 😡

Allira Mon 14-Apr-25 11:16:11

Caleo

Palestinians are being wiped out, not with death camps and human ovens, but with starvation, landlessness, and epidemic. These are more insidious than what went on in Nazi Germany.

Also, the US, and we too, view Israel as the point of the sword that defends our dependence on the financial corporations that make for our economic growth.

"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,. Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,. Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

There has been worse, worse will come.

However horrendous this is, it is not the Apocalypse

Whitewavemark2 Mon 14-Apr-25 08:42:13

A doctor killed yesterday by the Israel’s. His name was Dr. Amsha.

He was from Egypt.

Wyllow3 Mon 14-Apr-25 01:11:38

Oh, I'm so angry.

"Israeli air strike destroys part of last fully functional hospital in Gaza City"

"An Israeli air strike has destroyed part of al Ahli Arab Hospital, the last fully functional hospital in Gaza City.
Witnesses said the strike destroyed the intensive care and surgery departments of the hospital"

"Surrounding buildings, including St Philip's church, were also damaged, the diocese said.
It added that it was "appalled" at the bombing of the hospital "on the morning of Palm Sunday and the beginning of Holy Week".

"Khalil Bakr told BBC Arabic's Gaza Lifeline programme that he and his three injured daughters had fled the hospital with only a couple of minutes to spare before it was bombed.
"It was terrifying," he said. "The whole situation was difficult because I have already been injured. And as for my three daughters, one had her leg amputated, the other had her hand amputated, and the third had her body full of platinum plates

He added: "Only two minutes separated us from death."

"UK Foreign Minister David Lammy said such "deplorable attacks must end", adding: "Israel's attacks on medical facilities have comprehensively degraded access to healthcare in Gaza."

We should not stand by any longer

Its on BBC news website.

Caleo Sun 13-Apr-25 12:23:16

Valdavi, It is an amazing coincidence that, so long ago ,Yeats named Bethlehem which was where our Lord was born and that Bethlehem is now in Netanyahuland.

valdavi Sun 13-Apr-25 12:17:00

Sorry the last bit wasnt to Caleoblush, but about what we can do to help the situation.

valdavi Sun 13-Apr-25 12:14:23

Caleo - written 100 years ago, but some of the seeds of the situation were sown then.
I don't know what Yeats would have made of AI, internet & equal opps though - our 21c world wouldn't be civilisation as he would define it.

I would add, don't condemn marchers for Palestine unless they do something to deserve it. Sometimes on the forum they seem to be condemned just because they're protesting re Israels actions, which is their right in a free country.

Caleo Sun 13-Apr-25 12:03:20

Palestinians are being wiped out, not with death camps and human ovens, but with starvation, landlessness, and epidemic. These are more insidious than what went on in Nazi Germany.

Also, the US, and we too, view Israel as the point of the sword that defends our dependence on the financial corporations that make for our economic growth.

"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,. Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

Caleo Sun 13-Apr-25 11:55:43

Eloethan, the danger is that atrocity comes insidiously to begin with. Take the US under Trump for instance, he is clever enough to introduce his dictatorship by easy enough stages so his supporters are unaware of the direction he is going in.

Churchill was astute enough to understand where Hitler was going which is why Churchill did a lot to save this country being overrun by Nazis.

lixy Sun 13-Apr-25 06:57:14

Macadia

Are woman ordering these blatant murders or is it just men?

Both men and women serve equally in the Israeli Army Macadia. As for who issues the order, no idea but I don’t see gender as relevant here.

Macadia Sun 13-Apr-25 00:50:36

*women

Macadia Sun 13-Apr-25 00:50:23

Are woman ordering these blatant murders or is it just men?

Wyllow3 Sun 13-Apr-25 00:38:21

You can give money to Red Crescent.

Oxfam have ideas

www.oxfam.org.uk/oxfam-in-action/current-emergencies/how-to-help-gaza/

Eloethan Sat 12-Apr-25 23:59:03

It is truly terrible that it appears nothing much is being done about the demonic behaviour of the IDF. Why is the world not expressing outrage at what is obviously the intention of Israel to kill as many Palestinians as they possibly can and to drive them out of Gaza?

Has anyone got any ideas as to what ordinary people in the UK and around the world can do to support Palestinian people?

silverlining48 Sat 12-Apr-25 23:27:33

I have often wondered about that too. The idf are conscripts, they are young, yet numbers have done terrible things.,will this come back to haunt them? Who knows. ?
We all know from history that people conform to the majority behaviour. Of not wanting to be different, not to ‘rock the boat’.
I like the sound of those retreats pascal.

pascal30 Sat 12-Apr-25 19:16:42

Whitewavemark2

I wonder how their mental health will suffer as they get older and understand the atrocities being carried out by their compatriots.

It is such a heavy burden.

Thich Nhat Hahn used to run retreats in Plum Village France with both Israeli and Palestinians.. It is indeed a heavy burden to carry and I think have to become desensitised to their actions because they are following orders..
On the retreats they were kept separate for the first few days but when they interacted they began to change their beliefs and began to really see each other.. it was apparently quite transformational but that was before this war and with a small number of people.. It did show that it could be possible to live together in peace and understanding though//

lixy Sat 12-Apr-25 18:59:06

Whitewavemark2

I wonder how their mental health will suffer as they get older and understand the atrocities being carried out by their compatriots.

It is such a heavy burden.

I don’t feel it is a coincidence that Israel has a very well developed and funded mental health support system with many therapy disciplines. In fact the entire health system is astonishing.