Grooming gangs. Labour absolutely stink

Sarah Champion, Labour MP for Rotherham since 2012, always active.

Her Facebook page entry from yesterday:

The Government has now published a progress update on tackling child sexual abuse, outlining their plans to implement the recommendations made in the Independent Inquiry on Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA).

The national inquiry shone a light on the suffering caused to victims and survivors of child sexual abuse, as well as the failure of institutions to protect them.

For years, I have been campaigning with courageous victims, survivors and constituents to see the inquiry’s recommendations accepted, but was met with broken promises, excuses and delays from previous governments.

The update shows how the Government will be enacting several recommendations immediately, as well as a longer-term plan to implement the rest.

This is a huge credit to all those who have tirelessly campaigned for action on IICSA, we’re nearly there!
However, the work isn’t done yet. There are places the Government can and should be going further.

I demand that all 20 recommendations (Jay report)are implemented in full, because now is not the time to do things by halves.
I will be acting as a critical friend to the Government, developing legislation and working with Ministers, to push them to go further and ensure they do justice to every single recommendation.

I'm sick of hearing about her tbh. She seems to have ended up being some sort of champion of the right wing. Surely other intelligent people are on board with this? Nazir Afsal for one.

Iam64

Except Anna8 the ethnicity of the majority of men in the so-called grooming gangs is an issue. Yes most abusers are white men and peadophiles find organisations where they flourish and find each other
I keep returning to how we investigate and make sense of the extent of csa, most of it involving men from all backgrounds

Maggie Oliver has stated publicly and on many occasions that the Police have never kept records of the ethnicity of grooming gang members. She always said this is wrong.

fancythat

Now it is being called "afraid to upset community relations" by the sounds of things.

FFS. Have you read the Hansard article. If not, do!
You might learn something.
A public enquiry won’t get to the people/ services who are at the coal face. These are the people who are dealing with this horror every day.
Added to that there is every possibility that the above won’t be called to a public enquiry.

(I mean wrong to hold back on prosecutions of any child abuser)

fancythat

Now it is being called "afraid to upset community relations" by the sounds of things.

Now it is being called wrong.

Known and undisputed for years, Cumbrianmale56, condemned with others, the figures who called them out known, a 7 year Jay enquiry on it -

...the discussion here is on complex territory of how to deal with those left who historically had the same view and slowed down investigations, and of course how we should now stop and prosecute child abusers, police, victims support - read the thread and read the source of this discussion which are proposals to move on.

hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2025-04-08/debates/4FDDC9A4-1AC6-4F34-8E6B-3DF6CC2C981A/TacklingChildSexualAbuse

Now it is being called "afraid to upset community relations" by the sounds of things.

I can remember the Labour MP Naz Shah in the last decade condemning investigations into Muslim grooming gangs as it was bad for " diversity". This obsession with political correctness / diversity meant the police and social services were afraid to investigate grooming gangs in Rotherham, for fear of being called racist.

I think it was a real mistake for Jess Phillips to make this announcement in the very last session before the Commons went on holiday. Her statement uwas far more complex than has been misrepresented and subsequently government time has been wasted clarifying it.

nanna8

Ethnicity and abuse ? Abuse is abuse and ethnicity shouldn’t enter into it at all.

Hear hear

Elon will no doubt swoop over in a Batman cloak and rescue people.

www.gbnews.com/news/uk/starmer-grooming-gangs-uk-areas

Except Anna8 the ethnicity of the majority of men in the so-called grooming gangs is an issue. Yes most abusers are white men and peadophiles find organisations where they flourish and find each other
I keep returning to how we investigate and make sense of the extent of csa, most of it involving men from all backgrounds

Ethnicity and abuse ? Abuse is abuse and ethnicity shouldn’t enter into it at all.

I think the breadth and scope of what the Labour Party announced in terms of child protection, for victims of abuse to claim injury claims, shifting the burden of proof from survivors to defendants, for far greater greater police powers, full understanding of ethnicity and abuse,

is being overlooked in this discussion.

I won’t attempt to summarise it, here is the two page read

www.gov.uk/government/speeches/tackling-child-sexual-abuse-and-exploitation-update

Wyllow3

Where's your "50 towns" come from? News to me.
Why should victims of abuse from white people be ignored in general measures?

(apart from unsubstantiated claims by GB news in January, not backed up by statistics)

Where's your "50 towns" come from? News to me.
Why should victims of abuse from white people be ignored in general measures?

Keir Starmer used a three line whip to force his Labour MPs into stopping an inquiry and his front bench abstained.

Why?

Only one of over 400 Labour MPs believes a public inquiry into the industrial scale rape of tens of thousands of young girls in over 50 towns, by a particular ethnic group is necessary.

(I was relying to Iam)

Your last sentence is one I've been pondering on.

Although there are a higher % of grooming crimes from those with a Pakistani heritage, most grooming crimes and most child abuse crimes are done by white men.

Calls from the right to demand and focus on crimes done by this groups only do make me suspect a degree of divisive racism. Certainly a nasty sort of gamesmanship, given the horrific matters involved.

And there is an unanswered question - the Jay report came out in 2022, and there were immediate calls as a result of it for injuries into cover ups, but the Conservative government sat on it for 2 years doing nothing - yet now turn around and blame Labour?

Don't get me wrong, I think that the cover ups because of race were wrong and should definitely be investigated. And done properly - whether the current proposals (ie handling it locally) can deliver this we'll have to see. surely it depends how they go about it?

The proposals made by the Labour Party for more police action and for Victim groups/support and a separate authority to oversee investigations in the future apply across the board to all offenders.

Might as well just repeat the Telegraph POV. Calls for resignation from the far right are meaningless.

Yet another meaningless statement from a Labour apologist.

Having read the full report, the speeches and Hansard, my opinion remains the same. It doesn't matter how hard Jess Phillips claims to work, a Public Enquiry where people are compelled to attend and answer questions, has been sought and once again refused. There are many people involved at all levels who have evaded responsibility and thus censure, and the situation will continue unchanged.
Not particularly relevant, but you may be interested to know that Jacob Rees-Mogg and Jess Phillips got on extremely well together .

I can understand the hesitation for more national enquiries but I also feel uneasy about local authorities investigating themselves.
Inquiries to date have identified many key issues involved. It remains unknown why so many men were prepared to co-operate with each other in the mass rape, emotional / physical abuse of children. They targeted children they knew would be seen as complicit in their abuse. Thanks to Afzal and Starmer successful prosecutions began but I’d bet the farm the organised child sexual abuse continues.
Men who rape children rarely confined their behaviour to children they aren’t related to.
Maybe those calling for a national inquiry are right. Should it only focus on men of Pakistani Muslim heritage?

Sorry I don't think she is brave, I think I have had this conversation before, but when it comes to the tricky stuff, and this is tricky, she flails.

"apart from Tommy Robinson"

Good old Tommeh and his well known caring attitude.