Grooming gangs. Labour absolutely stink

If the article is true, that is diabolical behaviour.

Sir Trevor Phillips is very well respected and a great man.
All the papers are covering this disgraceful situation but many reports are behind pay walls.

This is a massive scandal.

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2039345/Labour-grooming-gangs-rape-scandal-inquiries

No coincidence that this has been dropped just before the May elections is it - frightened to death of not getting the votes from the predominantly Muslim communities where these viles acts occurred.

I have had to deal with this accusation earlier today on another forum.

Lies.

The local inquiries have not been cancelled. It was a press release put out by the Conservative Party. Initially Katie Lam (Conservative Shadow Safeguarding minister)

criticised the lack of progress and later that day the C party put out a press release accusing Labour of cancelling.

The Home Office has released a £5 million national fund not just for Independent Local Enquires but to build local victims panels and other regular local audits. The idea being not just to look back but to build for the future to prevent repeats. This full programme of measures, which also includes further support on the police front, is to be announced in May

It's all in Hansard dated yesterday word for word

dont believe all you read in the Tory press when its half the news - the tory accusations.

Primrose53

Sir Trevor Phillips is very well respected and a great man.
All the papers are covering this disgraceful situation but many reports are behind pay walls.

This is a massive scandal.

No pay walls in Hansard, look it up for yourself, yesterday

Spinnaker

No coincidence that this has been dropped just before the May elections is it - frightened to death of not getting the votes from the predominantly Muslim communities where these viles acts occurred.

This is borderline racist. Many muslims utterly condemned the actions of the grooming gangs. Don't smear all because of the appalling behaviour of the few.

Wyllow3

Spinnaker

No coincidence that this has been dropped just before the May elections is it - frightened to death of not getting the votes from the predominantly Muslim communities where these viles acts occurred.

This is borderline racist. Many muslims utterly condemned the actions of the grooming gangs. Don't smear all because of the appalling behaviour of the few.

No it isn't - of course many condemned it but it still goes without saying that in these predominantly Muslim communities there were an awful lot of those that didn't condemn it. I'm not smearing all, just some, which just happens to be quite a lot of the votes that count. Do not call me a racist, that is something that I'm not.

I think the information in Katie Lams speech was appalling, the story of the social worker was beyond words, there should have been a national inquiry into the failures of those meant to protect those children.

This is the Hansard debate reported as a whole so people can get picture of the breadth of measures proposed and what everyone actually said. It's a long read but necessary to see why the reports of matters being dropped are so inaccurate.

As I said local enquiries have not been dropped but more work is being done for victims of abuse including grooming and more criminal measures specifically on grooming.

hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2025-04-08/debates/4FDDC9A4-1AC6-4F34-8E6B-3DF6CC2C981A/TacklingChildSexualAbuse

Of course we have to expose the appalling failures. But we also have to put measures in to prevent further abuses and support victims - which is being proposed..

The Telegraph has form for "misunderstanding "/ " misreporting ".
It does this very well. You may recall my (repeated) posts correcting the lie they printed about the asylum - seeker - granted- leave - to - stay - because- he- had- a - cat.
The number of people who continue to quote this shows the success of untruthful and unscrupulous writers: I refuse to describe them as journalists.

Since this appeared I've looks at things. . What was done and said and by whom.
I agree with Trevor Phillips. To hysterically say we are targeting all Muslims who commit these vile crimes is exactly what shuts the investigations into the atrocities down. In my opinion these people should be put away for life and can the wider families really know nothing. Expose everything and if it takes the away a proportion of those that vote so what.

Yes, a typical tactic; blame the reporter, not the news.
It is a Labour mantra, blame the right wing press.
Diverts attention from what is actually happening, or in this case, is not happening.

So, eazybee , when I repeat, yet again, that the report in the The Telegraph about the asylum seeker was a lie, you accuse me of "blaming the right wing press".
It was a lie.
Sometimes people lie. Is calling out a lie a problem, or us printing a lie the problem?

The Telegraph is an unreliable source. Why anyone would pay to read it is difficult to understand.

The Guardian is an unreliable source as frequently are the BBC, the disparaging of the press you don't agree with isn't particularly helpful.

The only press that tells the truth is the one that the reader agrees with at that moment in time…

I've given the reference to Hansard, where all that was said is perfectly clear to see. And available to journalists.

I fear you are wasting your time Wyllow, but fair play to you for trying.

Nobody is going to be reading a sensible and articulate article. They prefer to add to an already hideous situation by inflaming it.

You’re wasting your breath Wyllow. People who write a thread with a title like this have no interest in the truth, they have already swallowed the ‘story’, wherever they have got it from. Even a contemporaneous report from Hansard of what was actually said in real time won’t convince them.

Yvette Cooper was on TV this morning trying to talk her way out of the mess. She looked embarrassed.

I have read it thanks very much. I support a national inquiry because of the failings across numerous areas, I don't believe you can invest in support for future victims without addressing the culture that led to this, and I disagree with the move to give local authorities an opt out. The rights of children and women frequently come second with the progressives, as we have seen before.

Thanks Wyllow gor the Hansard link.
(Saves looking for it!)
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