Grooming gangs. Labour absolutely stink

Iam64

Jess Phillips has no reason to resign. She’s a brave campaigner for women and children.
She’d be a great loss, not least because her track record tells us she will continue to work tirelessly

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Iam64

Jess Phillips has no reason to resign. She’s a brave campaigner for women and children.
She’d be a great loss, not least because her track record tells us she will continue to work tirelessly

I agree.

The Talk TV u tube is Isabel Oakeshott, who is Richard Tice's partner with POV to match. I just looked down the comments

eg "Rubery lowe has already raised 500k for a inquiry, one of the very few doing anything about it apart from Tommy Robinson"

NotSpaghetti

Jeremy Kyle is not someone I'd go to for the truth about anything.

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There's no answer to that!

Jess Phillips has no reason to resign. She’s a brave campaigner for women and children.
She’d be a great loss, not least because her track record tells us she will continue to work tirelessly

Jeremy Kyle is not someone I'd go to for the truth about anything.

Primrose53

Nothing from Maggie Oliver yet but there are calls for Jess Phillips to resign over this.

youtu.be/bj4_jT6yQo8?feature=shared

Talk TV is a known very right wing outlet. Might as well just repeat the Telegraph POV. Calls for resignation from the far right are meaningless.

hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2025-04-08/debates/4FDDC9A4-1AC6-4F34-8E6B-3DF6CC2C981A/TacklingChildSexualAbuse

Hansard so's its handy

Maremia

Okay GNs time to fess up, if you so wish, how many of you have actually read the free and not behind a paywall Hansard, which by law must be accurate and truthful, unlike some of the media some of you seem to support?

I have. It expanded on what Jess Phillips explained what was going to happen.
Like lots of people I too was incensed by the announcement.
But watching Jess phillips explain her decision it made sense.

You sound like you are agreeing with the Telegraph Headline from the opening post.

Not much, or none, in my opinion.

No.

"Strained communtiy relations" comes before any other consideration/decision made?
I don't think anyone suggested that. They did/do, however, have to be taken into account. Not the same thing at all.

Okay GNs time to fess up, if you so wish, how many of you have actually read the free and not behind a paywall Hansard, which by law must be accurate and truthful, unlike some of the media some of you seem to support?

Nothing from Maggie Oliver yet but there are calls for Jess Phillips to resign over this.

youtu.be/bj4_jT6yQo8?feature=shared

GrannyGravy13

Maggie Oliver is my go to for information on the grooming gangs, she is by far the most knowledgeable.

Yes, indeed.

Thank you Wyllow for the link to Hansard. I wish people wouldn't believe everything they read in the press without further thought.
I am not a Labour voter but this is an attack by the Tories on them with a scarcity of truth.

None of the many honest, decent and respectful Moslems who live in this country would in any way offended, those men who carried out these heinous
appalling acts will be condemned by their fellow men.

Wyllow3

I have had to deal with this accusation earlier today on another forum.

Lies.

The local inquiries have not been cancelled. It was a press release put out by the Conservative Party. Initially Katie Lam (Conservative Shadow Safeguarding minister)

criticised the lack of progress and later that day the C party put out a press release accusing Labour of cancelling.

The Home Office has released a £5 million national fund not just for Independent Local Enquires but to build local victims panels and other regular local audits. The idea being not just to look back but to build for the future to prevent repeats. This full programme of measures, which also includes further support on the police front, is to be announced in May

It's all in Hansard dated yesterday word for word

dont believe all you read in the Tory press when its half the news - the tory accusations.

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I think we are exacerbating problems with community relations by not having those discussions, and yes they are hard discussions and require courage. And again the priority is not the feelings of a community (how familiar this all sounds) but the safeguarding of children. You know how the Democrats wrapped up the present of trans rights and handed it to Trump, there is a risk of that happening here except with Reform and this issue.

Doodledog

Galaxy

If those panels etc are afflicted by the same culture of shh we must be careful not to hurt the feelings of the men then they will be of no use to women and children, in the same way that many safeguarding organisatios nodded along with the previous safeguarding calamity.

I don't think it was about not hurting the feelings of the men. It was more about not rushing headlong into something that could inflame strained community relations, which is not the same thing at all, and has nothing to do with anyone's voting intentions.

"Strained communtiy relations" comes before any other consideration/decision made?

Iam64

I first became aware of child sexual exploitation of vulnerable children by men of large,y Pakistani Muslim heritage in 1998. The social workers involved that I knew were in the main anxious and pushing managers and the police to investigate. I could say more about that but ……..

What I will stress is that in various meetings, informal/formal discussions I met no-one saying we couldn’t investigate for fear of offending the Muslim community.

But with respect, that was 1998 or near then.

Times changed drastically.

Wyllow3

I have had to deal with this accusation earlier today on another forum.

Lies.

The local inquiries have not been cancelled. It was a press release put out by the Conservative Party. Initially Katie Lam (Conservative Shadow Safeguarding minister)

criticised the lack of progress and later that day the C party put out a press release accusing Labour of cancelling.

The Home Office has released a £5 million national fund not just for Independent Local Enquires but to build local victims panels and other regular local audits. The idea being not just to look back but to build for the future to prevent repeats. This full programme of measures, which also includes further support on the police front, is to be announced in May

It's all in Hansard dated yesterday word for word

dont believe all you read in the Tory press when its half the news - the tory accusations.

Well said Wyllow3 the Tory press are unscrupulous in the way they report things and need calling out.

I'll remember to quote Hansard to a certain relative who believes everything the Tory press puts out and listens to online speakers who have right wing views

Galaxy

If those panels etc are afflicted by the same culture of shh we must be careful not to hurt the feelings of the men then they will be of no use to women and children, in the same way that many safeguarding organisatios nodded along with the previous safeguarding calamity.

I don't think it was about not hurting the feelings of the men. It was more about not rushing headlong into something that could inflame strained community relations, which is not the same thing at all, and has nothing to do with anyone's voting intentions.

(I was replying to Galaxy)

I agree. The abused victims and in general the abuse of women and children should be at the heart of our considerations and no shhh about it. Getting communities on board doesnt per se preclude this.