Tulip Sidiq

Let the law take its course.

Wyllow3

I think part of her confidence is being born in a relatively privileged and "international" upbringing, although her mum was an asylum seeker. But this is true of many men and women in public life, although confidence can come from the struggles of being born with great disadvantages too.

Its always worth asking the question whether a man presenting as confident using the same words has been judged the same.

Its always worth asking the question whether a man presenting as confident using the same words has been judged the same.

I think more so, especially if they were pupils at Eton!

It's more than self-confidence, there is nothing wrong with that at all imo. Confidence was something I had to work on, personally, therefore I encouraged my DD to be brave and confident.

It's rather different from being inordinately pleased with oneself, which is how Tulip comes across, and many men are criticised for that.

I think part of her confidence is being born in a relatively privileged and "international" upbringing, although her mum was an asylum seeker. But this is true of many men and women in public life, although confidence can come from the struggles of being born with great disadvantages too.

Its always worth asking the question whether a man presenting as confident using the same words has been judged the same.

Ilovedogs22

Most of the very super self-confident women I have ever worked with have either been very annoying or worse still nasty bullies.
They certainly weren't members of the sisterhood. 😗

Goodness, what a negative view of confident women

Wyllow3

She's never been accused of bullying. I get you don't like her!

I can’t find any mention of Tulip being accused of bullying anywhere.

I wrote to her about something she was speaking about in parliament the other year; can’t remember what it was. But I’ve always been impressed by her when she spoke in parliament. Wasn’t it Patel that was accused of bullying?

She's never been accused of bullying. I get you don't like her!

Most of the very super self-confident women I have ever worked with have either been very annoying or worse still nasty bullies.
They certainly weren't members of the sisterhood. 😗

Ilovedogs22

Hi Wyllo3, in answer to your question I'll try to explain why she'
appears arrogant.
I think that she presents as if she is God' gift to the universe.
She is so very cocky and full of herself, there is no humility!
As soon as any camera is in sight she zooms into it, delighting us mear mortals to her fake, awful saccharine rictus grin!
As I said arrogant & cocky too.😶

She has always come across as very pleased with herself and somewhat smug on the occasions I have seen her on TV bug thst was just my opinion. However, she is not my constituency MP so I've never met her and have no experience of how good she is so should not judge.

Perhaps it is just supreme self-confidence - is that a bad thing in a young woman?

I stayed in the LP for a year after Corbyn won the leadership. I finally left because despite his supporters saying he had integrity, what I saw was a grumpy man who couldn’t tolerate being challenged. He’d stride off from journalists, giving the impression he saw himself as the onky good guy in the room.
Starmer did what is expected, he supported the leader despite knowing Corbyn was a disaster

I truly hope that the always decent & honorable politician Mr Corbyn wouldn't have had anything do with the truly cringworthy Tulip. 😌

I wasn’t enamoured of Corbyn but still felt he was a far more decent person than the ones in the opposition.

eazybee

^Balancing personal loyalty to a self-described good friend with whom he's been on holiday against mounting public and political pressure.^

Would this be the same Keir Starmer (his deputy at the time) who claimed he only backed Jeremy Corbyn to become Prime Minister in the 2019 general election because he was certain that the left-wing Labour leader’s bid was doomed anyway. He was grilled by Beth Rigby who described his “catalogue of broken promises and changed positions”.

I can believe what he said about Corbyn. Given how many of us in the LP felt the same.

Show me any long term prominent political leader who hasn't changed positions! Its called politics.

I've read here wiki entry and watched bits of U tube. She's certainly a confident speaker, and personable presentation: I didn't see arrogance, but I haven't watched a lot.

The Bangladeshi accusations (info from the wiki report) are riddled with problems because the chief prosecutor was a political opponent to her Aunts' government in a corrupt system. Pretty difficult to disentangle.

Balancing personal loyalty to a self-described good friend with whom he's been on holiday against mounting public and political pressure.

Would this be the same Keir Starmer (his deputy at the time) who claimed he only backed Jeremy Corbyn to become Prime Minister in the 2019 general election because he was certain that the left-wing Labour leader’s bid was doomed anyway. He was grilled by Beth Rigby who described his “catalogue of broken promises and changed positions”.

I always thought that she appeared to be a good constituency MP and was very helpful/supportive to the Radcliffe family when they were so badly let down by Johnson.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Actually isn’t there a saying about judging a man by the company he keeps …. 🤔

Yes indeed, FriedGreenTomatoes2.😏

Hi Wyllo3, in answer to your question I'll try to explain why she'
appears arrogant.
I think that she presents as if she is God' gift to the universe.
She is so very cocky and full of herself, there is no humility!
As soon as any camera is in sight she zooms into it, delighting us mear mortals to her fake, awful saccharine rictus grin!
As I said arrogant & cocky too.😶

Ilovedogs22

My hackles have been raised alarmingly reading this thread!
Simply the mention of her smug name gives me the ickles.
What a arrogant piece of work she is. 🤨

How is she arrogant? (Genuine question)

My hackles have been raised alarmingly reading this thread!
Simply the mention of her smug name gives me the ickles.
What a arrogant piece of work she is. 🤨

Thanks Wyllow , I expect we’d have a break out of consensus in agreeing corruption is totally unacceptable. I agree with your concerns about politics in Bangladesh

And people in glass houses should Think On, 15 conservatives arrested on betting offences

I think governments are now far more on the ball as regards corruption than they used to be. 15 conservatives, including an ex MP, Craig Williams, who was an aid to Rishi Sunak, have been charged with betting offences

as a result of knowing the election date last year before the date was publicly announced

A Gambling Commission enquiry has just announced the charges. Some suspensions, it’s not clear if all have been suspended yet.

www.itv.com/news/2025-04-14/sunaks-former-aide-among-15-charged-with-gambling-offences-over-election-date

Thank you Wyllow.

There is a distinct possibility that, given the politics in Bangladesh, the charges are questionable.

Wiki notes

"The force is characterised by political patronage and a culture of impunity. International businesses have said that the Bangladeshi police force is one of the world's least reliable".

I completely agree that corruption is not acceptable but clearly we - and the PM of any party where there are these quite rare issues - have to wait for full information.

as I quoted above, correct procedure in the UK is ""The UK lists Bangladesh as a 2B extradition country - meaning clear evidence must be presented before ministers and judges make a decision

We all await developments on this story.