US/UK trade deal?

Donald Trump and his right hand general that’s Vance are the personification of the Hitler regime. Especially for those of a certain age I saw it then I see it now I hope that England sees this for what it is and steps aside I think that everyone needs to unite and not be coerced by this false profit at least that’s what I think! This is a man who ran on giving independence to education and look what he’s doing that’s Trump and Vance -to the University or trying to do my fear is that he will succeed and this is just going to far pretty much like book burning! Unless you look a certain way talk a certain way and adhere to certain philosophy you’re not welcome in the United States it does not seem they might as well remove the Statue of Liberty and put one up with Trump!!

Donald Trump and his right hand general that’s Vance are the personification of the Hitler regime. Especially for those of a certain age I saw it then I see it now I hope that England sees this for what it is and steps aside I think that everyone needs to unite and not be coerced by this false profit at least that’s what I think! This is a man who ran on giving independence to education and look what he’s doing that’s Trump and Vance -to the University or trying to do my fear is that he will succeed and this is just going to far pretty much like book burning! Unless you look a certain way talk a certain way and adhere to certain philosophy you’re not welcome in the United States it does not seem they might as well remove the Statue of Liberty and put one up with Trump!!

I agree with you. The President seems to be displaying paranoia, in that he thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong. He is the saviour of America, Got saved his life so he could save America.

Of course, not being a psychiatrist I cannot say.

What really makes me laugh is the way he holds up everything he signs to show the world what a clever little chappie he is, and could mum put it on the fridge door, please?

Nothing at the expense of a closer relationship with the EU, our most important trading partner.

I have seen nothing to suggest that we wouldn’t have to take their chlorine-washed chicken or hormone-fed beef if we had a trade deal with the rogue state that is the USA.

I think it was Vance who said that the chicken is safe to eat. Hmm. Why does it need to be bleached to make it safe? We can produce good grass-fed beef without hormones, so why would we want American hormone-contaminated meat?

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‘Made in China’ doesn’t inspire confidence.

My son’s brother-in-law recently visited China as part of his job as an engineer and visited one of the BYD factories which manufactures electric cars. He said it was state of the art and will soon be a real threat to other electric cars, he holds a very high position in his company, which is actually American,
and knows what he is talking about. Vance’s ill informed comment about Chinese peasants is not only ignorant and ill informed it is so far off the mark it is laughable.

BYD is a giant and rivals Tesla and Toyota in production, its cars are attractive, cheap and reliable, not too many in the UK yet but common in other countries. The Chinese brand that gets noticed most is MG, that sells in large numbers.

We all have choice though. We don’t have to sell our country down the river, we can make conscious choices and buy British or European made. Japanese cars are mainly made in the UK, which keeps jobs here. Are MG or BYD?

We have just bought a Japanese car from a dealer who also stocks some Chinese cars. The sales man was not impressed with the chinese cars as many of them had roof leaks. A bad fault for UK

I am with the majority of you and I do not trust any of them. I wonder if the agreement signed with President Zelensky to allow America to source minerals will allow Russia to sidle up to USA in that part of Ukraine.
Why cant we just have a peaceful world. Life is far to short.

I doubt the trade deal is imminent. I couldn't care less about chlorinated chicken: I've eaten it often enough in the US without an ill effects.

Wheniwasyourage

I have seen nothing to suggest that we wouldn’t have to take their chlorine-washed chicken or hormone-fed beef if we had a trade deal with the rogue state that is the USA.

I think it was Vance who said that the chicken is safe to eat. Hmm. Why does it need to be bleached to make it safe? We can produce good grass-fed beef without hormones, so why would we want American hormone-contaminated meat?

The article on BBC I player news on her trip reported reassuringly said she has said definitely no reduction on food standards.

Grantanow

I doubt the trade deal is imminent. I couldn't care less about chlorinated chicken: I've eaten it often enough in the US without an ill effects.

Good for you… but just remember that the rate of food poisoning in the US is far, far higher than that of the UK (we ‘did’ all the statistics last time there was the threat of a US/UK trade deal)

I’m afraid that one person’s personal experience doesn’t negate the data.

So if food standards are not reduced.

What concessions are we likely to make?

It reminds me of the time when 'mad cow disease ' was prevalent and some government minister (Gummer?) made his children eat beef burgers in an attempt to say everything was ok.
I have no wish to eat anything that came from USA. There's stuff I can't avoid, but dodgy meat is a step too far

Apparently Reeves is playing down the idea of an early trade deal, saying that she intends to get the best for the U.K.

I hope it isn’t similar to the trashing of our environmental protection that labour have been involved in, if so, we are buggered.

I just hope it gets labelled so we know what we're eating.

I was going to buy some chicken wings recently until I saw the label- not for EU, then put it back.

The EU has the highest food standards in the world. The chicken was an American brand... no thanks.

Whitewavemark2

Apparently Reeves is playing down the idea of an early trade deal, saying that she intends to get the best for the U.K.

I hope it isn’t similar to the trashing of our environmental protection that labour have been involved in, if so, we are buggered.

Any hope of an easy deal is not realistic - even within the 90 days period.
As for food standards, it has been a big issue for many years, however there is a big organic and conservation food movement in the US that do produce food to our standards. It may well be possible to allow certified supply of selected products into the UK.

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Whitewavemark2

Apparently Reeves is playing down the idea of an early trade deal, saying that she intends to get the best for the U.K.

I hope it isn’t similar to the trashing of our environmental protection that labour have been involved in, if so, we are buggered.

Any hope of an easy deal is not realistic - even within the 90 days period.
As for food standards, it has been a big issue for many years, however there is a big organic and conservation food movement in the US that do produce food to our standards. It may well be possible to allow certified supply of selected products into the UK.

And our farmers?

Whitewavemark2

David49

Whitewavemark2

Apparently Reeves is playing down the idea of an early trade deal, saying that she intends to get the best for the U.K.

I hope it isn’t similar to the trashing of our environmental protection that labour have been involved in, if so, we are buggered.

Any hope of an easy deal is not realistic - even within the 90 days period.
As for food standards, it has been a big issue for many years, however there is a big organic and conservation food movement in the US that do produce food to our standards. It may well be possible to allow certified supply of selected products into the UK.

And our farmers?

Farmers have already been sold down the river

I was going to buy some chicken wings recently until I saw the label- not for EU, then put it back.

'Not for EU' is because we don't have a trade agreement with them that allows free movement of meat products across the EU border. It doesn't necessarily mean that the product doesn't conform to EU standards. OTOH, if it is a US product I do't blame you being cautious though I don't think they're allowed in the UK unless they meet our standards. |

Of course, it might have been produced in the UK for the US company, in which case it 'should' be fine.

International trade in animal products is a minefield, I think...

Ok, thanks for that. The minefield is about the get much bigger and more difficult to navigate I suspect.

It was TGI Friday brand- not raw chicken. I'm avoiding all US brands as much as I can- though I do have a weakness for chicken wings!

"Farmers have already been sold down the river"

Well no need to make it more difficult. I dont think meat products should come into the reckoning, so far they seem to be talking about cars, steel, etc.

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I just hope it gets labelled so we know what we're eating.

I was going to buy some chicken wings recently until I saw the label- not for EU, then put it back.

The EU has the highest food standards in the world. The chicken was an American brand... no thanks.

Oh dear 🤦🏼‍♀️ It’s got diddly squat to do with food standards. My milk states that it’s not for eu consumption.

We certainly seem to need labelling clarity. "Produced in the x (country named) to UK food standards". The EU does still buy a lot of food from us, (although we buy more from them) it does seem horribly complicated.

Petra I looked milk and the EU up and got

"The phrase "EU wont buy UK milk" is likely a misunderstanding related to the "Not for EU" labelling on some British goods.

This labeling, introduced as part of the Windsor Framework, indicates that these products are intended for sale within the UK and Northern Ireland, and are not meant for the EU market.
It doesn't signify that the milk is of lower quality or fails to meet EU standards.

I was brought up to believe that the USA was my friend and ally.

The trust has been broken.

The USA is no longer a friend or ally of the UK or of Europe.

I'm a vegetarian, so my views on chlorinated chicken are possibly a little left field, but if this potentially scuppers the deal we need , I say, let it in - labelled clearly " Chlorinated Chicken from the USA".
We'll see how much of that is bought...