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US/UK trade deal?

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Wyllow3 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:00:58

Overnight Vance has made vague noises about a trade deal with no specifics

"'The president really loves the United Kingdom'
“We’re certainly working very hard with Keir Starmer’s government.
"The president really loves the United Kingdom. He loved the Queen. He admires and loves the King. It is a very important relationship. And he’s a businessman and has a number of important business relationships in [Britain].

He also mentioned Europe "“I love European people"

US Vice-President JD Vance says there is a "good chance" a trade deal could be reached with the UK

The UK's trade minister agrees, but says she can't provide a "timeline" for when an agreement might be reached

UK imports to the US are charged a 10% tariff, with higher rates for cars, steel, and aluminium, but Vance says "we're working very hard with Keir Starmer's government" on a deal
But when it came to US-EU relations, Vance was less complimentary"

But meanwhile the USA is looking at putting tariffs on in the pharmaceutical trade.

I dont trust Vance at all. My first thought it, "at what costs to us". And also, not to accept trade deals that are deliberately intended to split us off from other allies - Canada, Europe. Atm all "hot air" in the on of/ on off edicts from the White House.

Its on the BBC I player news feed.

Other report not behind paywall

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/15/jd-vance-says-us-hopeful-of-great-trade-deal-with-uk

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:05:53

I don't trust Vance anymore than I'd trust Trump Wyllow.

Rosie51 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:06:14

I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I don't want any deals with the current administration, you can be 100% certain they'd be more advantageous to USA than UK. I agree Wyllow any deal would be intended to cause splits with other allies, that's why Trump backed Brexit, divide and rule, old as the hills.

NotSpaghetti Tue 15-Apr-25 11:10:05

Just keep bending the knee!
🤷‍♀️

fancythat Tue 15-Apr-25 11:20:18

I cant be bothered with it all at the moment.
Can change today, tomorrow, whenever.
Wouldnt like to be involved in world trade at the moment though.
I am surprised there hasnt been bigger backlashes to it all by now.

Wyllow3 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:23:09

Does Vance really think the "honeyed words" are believed anymore? Or will help split the UK politically?

Maybe the interview was for US consumption "look how nice we are to UK/EU" despite slamming on and messing with constant tariff changes.

AGAA4 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:27:01

This was on BBC breakfast news this morning. I also don't trust Vance and we know things change daily in the US. There could be a different story tomorrow.

Grandmabatty Tue 15-Apr-25 11:41:05

He could say it was raining and I'd look out the window to check for myself. I don't trust any of them

Wyllow3 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:41:58

I think atm my major concern is that it will slow down alliances with other countries in the hopes of a "Deal", has been done deliberately for that, and we should call their bluff and continue to work on trade alliances.

Ilovecheese Tue 15-Apr-25 12:05:31

Wylow3 that is what I think as well. He doesn't want us making a closer trading alliance with the EU or other countries in preference to the USA. He wants us to believe that we can't possibly manage without America.

Norah Tue 15-Apr-25 12:42:58

"The president really loves the United Kingdom"

"He loved the Queen. He admires and loves the King."

Is his definition of "love" is anything apart from self serving?

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 15-Apr-25 13:03:38

I'm with you * Grandmabatty *.
A short while ago, Mr Vance was saying extremely unpleasant things about the whole of Europe.
I think that he is keen to agree a trade / tariff deal with someone- anyone ? to bring something to show to the people of the USA, " proving" that Mr Trump's total mishandling of trade matters was, in fact, a success.
He's a total snake in the grass.

David49 Tue 15-Apr-25 13:43:00

I dont trust Trump and Vance even less. Personally I wouldn't deal with either of them, as a nation we have to deal with them but after you shake hands remember to count your fingers.

AGAA4 Tue 15-Apr-25 13:52:11

I think the US is getting nervous. China has stopped delivery of Boeing planes from the US. It's not a good time to be doing deals with Vance.

Rosie51 Tue 15-Apr-25 14:18:03

Wyllow3

I think atm my major concern is that it will slow down alliances with other countries in the hopes of a "Deal", has been done deliberately for that, and we should call their bluff and continue to work on trade alliances.

!00% agree. Given that both Trump and Vance can say one thing today and then tomorrow totally deny they ever said it tells all. It will be a long time before the world can put any trust in USA again.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Apr-25 14:24:34

I will be very annoyed if the deal is detrimental with any other potential trade alliances with Europe or other trading partners.

I would prefer to keep the Trump government at arms length.

Review the situation if there is a regime change.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Apr-25 14:37:11

That should be “detrimental to”

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 15-Apr-25 15:14:06

I think they butter us up with sweet words to annoy the EU as much as anything, now we’ve left.
If it means a better deal for us I’d happily take it.
“Never look a gift horse” and all that.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 15-Apr-25 15:20:49

Plus, a reminder for anyone doubting the importance of the Royals, myself included, of their soft power and the influence it has on diplomacy and our country’s standing. 😁

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Apr-25 15:27:42

It can never be better than a deal with a much stronger economic block, bigger customer base and closer proximity.

It is a no brainer.

Macadia Tue 15-Apr-25 15:34:22

It sounds as if all these comments are talking about Russia. Oh my how things have changed in 2025.

fancythat Tue 15-Apr-25 15:42:06

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Plus, a reminder for anyone doubting the importance of the Royals, myself included, of their soft power and the influence it has on diplomacy and our country’s standing. 😁

Good point

fancythat Tue 15-Apr-25 15:44:58

AGAA4

I think the US is getting nervous. China has stopped delivery of Boeing planes from the US. It's not a good time to be doing deals with Vance.

Now that is a bigger matter.

I do think sometimes, Gnetters in general can focus on smaller items, and forget the bigger trades.

Churchview Tue 15-Apr-25 15:47:12

Vance's vocabulary is as infantile and limited as Trump's.

Pretty much everything that has come out of the USA recently has been hot air and either quickly forgotten, denied or subject to a U-turn.

When they were campaigning it was easy for Trump and Vance to spout false promises and threats. Now they actually have to do hard work, get down to detail, negotiate with world leaders and face the reality of the outcome of their actions they can't do it. Nothing comes of their vainglorious bellywash.

Surely the world is wearying of waiting for Donald to piss or get off the pot.

Cossy Tue 15-Apr-25 15:47:55

Rosie51

I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I don't want any deals with the current administration, you can be 100% certain they'd be more advantageous to USA than UK. I agree Wyllow any deal would be intended to cause splits with other allies, that's why Trump backed Brexit, divide and rule, old as the hills.

I agree with you and Willow3 and Whitemark!

B*****r America whilst Trump/Vance/Musk at large.

Sorry normal USA citizens who didn’t vote for this shower of s**t