Gransnet forums

News & politics

US/UK trade deal?

(112 Posts)
Chocolatelovinggran Tue 15-Apr-25 13:03:38

I'm with you * Grandmabatty *.
A short while ago, Mr Vance was saying extremely unpleasant things about the whole of Europe.
I think that he is keen to agree a trade / tariff deal with someone- anyone ? to bring something to show to the people of the USA, " proving" that Mr Trump's total mishandling of trade matters was, in fact, a success.
He's a total snake in the grass.

Norah Tue 15-Apr-25 12:42:58

"The president really loves the United Kingdom"

"He loved the Queen. He admires and loves the King."

Is his definition of "love" is anything apart from self serving?

Ilovecheese Tue 15-Apr-25 12:05:31

Wylow3 that is what I think as well. He doesn't want us making a closer trading alliance with the EU or other countries in preference to the USA. He wants us to believe that we can't possibly manage without America.

Wyllow3 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:41:58

I think atm my major concern is that it will slow down alliances with other countries in the hopes of a "Deal", has been done deliberately for that, and we should call their bluff and continue to work on trade alliances.

Grandmabatty Tue 15-Apr-25 11:41:05

He could say it was raining and I'd look out the window to check for myself. I don't trust any of them

AGAA4 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:27:01

This was on BBC breakfast news this morning. I also don't trust Vance and we know things change daily in the US. There could be a different story tomorrow.

Wyllow3 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:23:09

Does Vance really think the "honeyed words" are believed anymore? Or will help split the UK politically?

Maybe the interview was for US consumption "look how nice we are to UK/EU" despite slamming on and messing with constant tariff changes.

fancythat Tue 15-Apr-25 11:20:18

I cant be bothered with it all at the moment.
Can change today, tomorrow, whenever.
Wouldnt like to be involved in world trade at the moment though.
I am surprised there hasnt been bigger backlashes to it all by now.

NotSpaghetti Tue 15-Apr-25 11:10:05

Just keep bending the knee!
🤷‍♀️

Rosie51 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:06:14

I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I don't want any deals with the current administration, you can be 100% certain they'd be more advantageous to USA than UK. I agree Wyllow any deal would be intended to cause splits with other allies, that's why Trump backed Brexit, divide and rule, old as the hills.

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:05:53

I don't trust Vance anymore than I'd trust Trump Wyllow.

Wyllow3 Tue 15-Apr-25 11:00:58

Overnight Vance has made vague noises about a trade deal with no specifics

"'The president really loves the United Kingdom'
“We’re certainly working very hard with Keir Starmer’s government.
"The president really loves the United Kingdom. He loved the Queen. He admires and loves the King. It is a very important relationship. And he’s a businessman and has a number of important business relationships in [Britain].

He also mentioned Europe "“I love European people"

US Vice-President JD Vance says there is a "good chance" a trade deal could be reached with the UK

The UK's trade minister agrees, but says she can't provide a "timeline" for when an agreement might be reached

UK imports to the US are charged a 10% tariff, with higher rates for cars, steel, and aluminium, but Vance says "we're working very hard with Keir Starmer's government" on a deal
But when it came to US-EU relations, Vance was less complimentary"

But meanwhile the USA is looking at putting tariffs on in the pharmaceutical trade.

I dont trust Vance at all. My first thought it, "at what costs to us". And also, not to accept trade deals that are deliberately intended to split us off from other allies - Canada, Europe. Atm all "hot air" in the on of/ on off edicts from the White House.

Its on the BBC I player news feed.

Other report not behind paywall

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/15/jd-vance-says-us-hopeful-of-great-trade-deal-with-uk