Will the Supreme Court protect Women's Rights?

silverlining48

I didn’t know about this so read the link and hope the Scottish Supreme Court will do the right thing and protect women’s rights.

Thank you for reading the link, so important

There is an obsession with labelling women far right, hysterical, nazis. I wonder what that is linked to.

There is an obsession with toilets on GN. Is it because we sre all getting to a "difficult" stage of life?

AGAA4

The argument seems to be that if a person has a GRC stating that they are a woman then they have access to all safe places of women.
A GRC can be used to say you have changed your sex.
No certificate can't change a man into a woman. It's biologically impossible .

As well as that, legislation says that to ask someone to prove they are now a different sex (by producing the said GRC, for instance) could be deemed a hate crime and cause the asker to be charged. This opens up the possibility that someone who is NOT trans but just wants access to female-only spaces (whether for voyeuristic motives or "for a laugh") can't be challenged without risking arrest.

What is the use of a document which confirms their trans status if no-one can ask to see it?

Smileless2012

You must have missed the numerous threads here on GN over the last couple of years where this issue has been discussed Stepgranonabroomstick.

There is one running at the moment on this forum about single sex spaces, but I don't recall seeing you there.

This is far more wide ranging than single sex spaces

Stepgranonabroomstick

I despair of Gransnet. Are there really only two people here who care about the basic rights of women?

If you are new to Gransnet, Stepgranonabroomstick, perhaps you have missed all the discussions on women's rights? Perhaps too you have not noticed that posters often miss one thread among the many which appear continuously all day. While they are busy reading and commenting on a serious thead on one international subject, they may not have read a different post which arrived in the middle of the discussion. I myself have just read this thread - yet I spent some time on GN yesterday. I also spent time doing other things, equally important, which took all my attention and I still have to finish today.

OldFrill's opening post apparently was posted at about ten to two, and you read it and replied at about ten past. Three hours later you were miffed that no-one else had posted. That is life! We do other things besides GN, and when we do sign in, we are not speed-readers.

PoliticsNerd

Galaxy

I don't really understand the comment about people on GN not caring about women's rights, they are discussed frequently. There is a current thread on single sex spaces. What do you mean?

I agree. Also, I would expect the majority to be interested in everyone's basic rights but not necessarily be prepared to put their opinions on GN and get mown down by the extremists on here.

By extremists I assume you mean women who with their knowledge of biology know that a man cannot become a women.

A man can put on a dress, heels and lipstick but it does not give them the right to enter women only spaces, nor does it give them the right to call themselves a women!

We could give them the benefit of the doubt, that they do not understand basic biology or we could call them out for what it actually is…

For the record I know of two trans women, and they are appalled by the new wave of which they describe as trans terrorists

You must have missed the numerous threads here on GN over the last couple of years where this issue has been discussed Stepgranonabroomstick.

There is one running at the moment on this forum about single sex spaces, but I don't recall seeing you there.

Could you name the extremists PN?

OldFrill

This link explains why the case has reached the UK Supreme court and the implications of any judgement

It's far more than safe spaces for women
sexmatters.org/posts/updates/will-the-supreme-court-protect-womens-rights/

My tablet is denying access to that site. I think that may well tell me all I want to know about the article.

This link explains why the case has reached the UK Supreme court and the implications of any judgement

It's far more than safe spaces for women
sexmatters.org/posts/updates/will-the-supreme-court-protect-womens-rights/

Galaxy

I don't really understand the comment about people on GN not caring about women's rights, they are discussed frequently. There is a current thread on single sex spaces. What do you mean?

I agree. Also, I would expect the majority to be interested in everyone's basic rights but not necessarily be prepared to put their opinions on GN and get mown down by the extremists on here.

The argument seems to be that if a person has a GRC stating that they are a woman then they have access to all safe places of women.
A GRC can be used to say you have changed your sex.
No certificate can't change a man into a woman. It's biologically impossible .

GrannyGravy13

I think it’s a sad day when women need a judgement from the High Court to define what they are…

It's the Scottish Government that seems to need it, not women

I think it’s a sad day when women need a judgement from the High Court to define what they are…

The judgement is imminent.

Stepgranonabroomstick

I despair of Gransnet. Are there really only two people here who care about the basic rights of women?

No, Stepgranonabroomstick, there are probably 50,000 people - not just two - both men and women, (even LGBTQ+) in many countries all over the world, here on Gransnet, who care about women's rights. 💡

Every human has had a woman in their life.

silverlining48

I didn’t know about this so read the link and hope the Scottish Supreme Court will do the right thing and protect women’s rights.

It's the UK Supreme court that is ruling.

Generally Scottish news seems fairly low priority in rUK (and on Gransnet). The judgement will have repercussions throughout the UK whether it supports the Scottish government or not, which is why l thought it may be of interest outwith Scotland

I rarely, if ever, post on the politics or religion forums .

Not all of us are glued to Granset all day.

I despair of Gransnet. Are there really only two people here who care about the basic rights of women?
I refuse to respond to new posters who come on here to goad.

I don't really understand the comment about people on GN not caring about women's rights, they are discussed frequently. There is a current thread on single sex spaces. What do you mean?

As horrifying as the subject is, I found the article intriguing where it stated,

Data Collection: Breaking down statistics by certified sex, not biological sex, will seriously distort or our understanding of medical phenomena.

To me, this means that historical statistics could report that there was an enormous surge of woman growing male body parts in the year 2025.

Stepgranonabroomstick

I despair of Gransnet. Are there really only two people here who care about the basic rights of women?

Ahem.

As I had a rant recently about others expecting everyone to have lots of time to deal with Politics, in the same way, most GNetters as far as I know are not glued to GN on the whole, either.

I hope they support the rights. fwiw.

Stepgranonabroomstick

I despair of Gransnet. Are there really only two people here who care about the basic rights of women?

I care but I don’t feel the need to post my views online. Just by responding you Stepgran I feel I’m virtue signalling.