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Sudan.

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Allira Wed 16-Apr-25 11:32:16

But why are the young men leaving women, children, babies to their fate, LizzieDrip.

What kind of men are they to do that, leaving their little sisters to be starved, raped?
Cowardly.

This is truly shocking and has gone on for far too long, barely reported.

Primrose53 Wed 16-Apr-25 11:30:47

LizzieDrip

The horror of living in Sudan is inextricably linked to the act of seeking asylum; you cannot consider one without the other. There but for the grace of God…

If I were living through that horror, would I want to get out? Yes.

If English was the language I spoke or I had distant relatives in the UK, would I want to go there? Yes.

If there was no legal way for me and my family to escape to the UK, would I consider paying someone to get us out? Yes.

If I had an adult son or grandson and could only gather enough money to pay for him, rather than me, would I do that? Yes.

I would accept that I would die amongst the horror … but I would want him to, at least, have a chance of a future.

When I see the young male asylum seekers who live near me, I don’t think, ‘oh here we we go again; 600 arrived in one day; they’ll need blankets, doctors, dentists’.

I think, ‘I wonder what horror they’ve seen before arriving here and I wonder who they’ve left behind’.

So they leave their women and children behind and just run away.

LizzieDrip Wed 16-Apr-25 10:56:29

The horror of living in Sudan is inextricably linked to the act of seeking asylum; you cannot consider one without the other. There but for the grace of God…

If I were living through that horror, would I want to get out? Yes.

If English was the language I spoke or I had distant relatives in the UK, would I want to go there? Yes.

If there was no legal way for me and my family to escape to the UK, would I consider paying someone to get us out? Yes.

If I had an adult son or grandson and could only gather enough money to pay for him, rather than me, would I do that? Yes.

I would accept that I would die amongst the horror … but I would want him to, at least, have a chance of a future.

When I see the young male asylum seekers who live near me, I don’t think, ‘oh here we we go again; 600 arrived in one day; they’ll need blankets, doctors, dentists’.

I think, ‘I wonder what horror they’ve seen before arriving here and I wonder who they’ve left behind’.

Mollygo Wed 16-Apr-25 10:52:52

Thanks for the info FGT2.
We contribute to some charity work in South Sudan, which is even lower on the poverty scale than Sudan. The influx of refugees fleeing from the violence in Sudan into the poorer country shows how desperate things are.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 16-Apr-25 09:52:02

Michael Jones, a terrorism and conflict research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute think tank, said: “I don’t think it’s particularly likely we will see a military resolution to the conflict anytime soon.”

He said he was also sceptical that any high-level deal or even partition could necessarily halt the killing on the ground.

He said: “There is no automatic reason why some kind of high level political deal will stop violence on the ground.

“Partition might become a reality on the ground given the situation militarily, but I don’t necessarily at this stage see there being a sustainable political resolution that divides the country.

“Particularly as neither coalition is especially stable, so even if it did partition it doesn’t necessarily stop the violence.”

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 16-Apr-25 09:46:51

“ Fighting erupted on April 15 2023 between the army, led by Abdel Fattah al-Burhan, and the RSF, headed by his former deputy Mohamed Hamdan Daglo.

In March, Burhan announced the capital Khartoum was “free” of the RSF, cementing his upper hand. But the RSF has since ramped up its attacks in Darfur, launching a fierce assault on El Fasher – the last state capital in the vast western region still held by the regular army.

Aid agency Oxfam said the humanitarian catastrophe caused by the war risked becoming a regional crisis, with fighting spilling into neighbouring countries.

It said that in South Sudan, itself wracked by recent war, “the arrival of people fleeing Sudan’s conflict has put more pressure on already scarce resources, which is deepening local tensions and threatening the fragile peace”.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 16-Apr-25 09:45:44

Britain and the EU pledged to give more than £567 million in aid to Sudan on Tuesday as world leaders met to discuss ending the country’s brutal civil war.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 16-Apr-25 09:41:51

Entering its 3rd year of civil war. An horrendous situation. The UK and EU have committed to sending ££s millions. Such a mess there. I hope our money goes where it ought to and not just buying more guns or siphoned off so that dictators can drive around in Mercedes and send their wives shopping in London and Paris.

Anyone know what this latest civil war is actually about?