Lucy Powell dog whistle comments!

Refresh your memory about the Lucy Connolly conviction:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo

She knew perfectly well what she was doing.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Wes Streeting said: “She’s also human. I’ve made mistakes in the past, I’m sure I’m going to make mistakes in the future.’
Lucy Connolly jailed for 31 months for a subsequently deleted Facebook post was not afforded the same understanding.

That's because she made more than one "mistake" and she pled guilty to a crime.

Wes Streeting said: “She’s also human. I’ve made mistakes in the past, I’m sure I’m going to make mistakes in the future.’
Lucy Connolly jailed for 31 months for a subsequently deleted Facebook post was not afforded the same understanding.

I agree with you Rosie51. I didn't interpret what she said as others have done. However, she rose to the bait, lost it and opened her mouth before putting her brain into gear. She's been a politician for long enough to know better.

I think it was the whole response she gave "Oh, we want to blow that little trumpet now, do we? Let's get that dog whistle out, shall we? that was so offensive. 'Little trumpet' 'dog whistle' both used to dismiss and silence. I wonder what her reaction to those phrases would be if uttered by an opposition MP.

growstuff

Wyllow3

I had to clarify dog whistle by looking it up, but there are different definitions.

Growstuff's description of a speech or statement of making a number of comments which supporters would understood as provocative and critical but not saying as much in plain speech does fit the bill -

Powell spotted it as such but should have stuck to the issue not the provocation..

Yes, she should and the way she expressed herself was inept. I don't think she actually meant "dog whistle" - she really should have explained herself better.

I expect she was thinking about the demos by Tommy Robinson and his ilk. More often than not, there is somebody holding up a placard about grooming gangs. They couldn't care less about the victims. Their issue is the ethnicity of the gangs and is a racist attack. There were a number of them just after the Southport riots, even though those murders had nothing to do with grooming.

When Jack Straw was MP for Blackburn he didn’t hold back when calling out the ethnicity of the grooming gangs.

Lucy Powell is truly awful, along with the rest of the goons leading our country.

I agree Eazybee and watered down inquiries are useless.

The Grooming Gangs Inquiry is of great concern to many, and after promising five Government Inquiries, in which witnesses are compelled to attend, Labour has downgraded them to council-led inquiries. These have little power over the perpetrators, but particularly over representatives of the Police and Social workers, whose responses have been identified as inadequate, incompetent, contemptuous, misogynistic, and driven by fear of inflaming racial tensions. All comments taken from various reviews over the past ten plus years.
Lucy Powell's comment was contemptuous and inflammatory.

I read it not as shut up but as "you're bring political footballs to provoke" but as I said a totally inept response in frustration.

I really think probably most of the public wouldn't have understood the phrase and its not "ignorance" but so out of date and only understood in the political arena.

No the phrase was used against gender critical feminists time and time again, it means shut up. It doesn't work and won't work this time.

Wyllow3

I had to clarify dog whistle by looking it up, but there are different definitions.

Growstuff's description of a speech or statement of making a number of comments which supporters would understood as provocative and critical but not saying as much in plain speech does fit the bill -

Powell spotted it as such but should have stuck to the issue not the provocation..

Yes, she should and the way she expressed herself was inept. I don't think she actually meant "dog whistle" - she really should have explained herself better.

I expect she was thinking about the demos by Tommy Robinson and his ilk. More often than not, there is somebody holding up a placard about grooming gangs. They couldn't care less about the victims. Their issue is the ethnicity of the gangs and is a racist attack. There were a number of them just after the Southport riots, even though those murders had nothing to do with grooming.

I had to clarify dog whistle by looking it up, but there are different definitions.

Growstuff's description of a speech or statement of making a number of comments which supporters would understood as provocative and critical but not saying as much in plain speech does fit the bill -

Powell spotted it as such but should have stuck to the issue not the provocation..

Wyllow3

I blame them both. Both using the issue as a political football serves no one, and that's been happening for some time.

I think all parties take the issue very very seriously indeed. No one wants less than the resources and will to act more effectively on abuse still continuing.

I'm not sure about Lucy Powell and what should happen. It was an angry retort to a political prod, but her reaction was definitely out of order.

I agree that it's been used as a political football (hopefully understand the term).

The first time I came across the term "dog whistle politics" was during one of the London mayor elections when Zac Goldsmith made a number of comments which his supporters would have understood as criticisms of Sadiq Khan as Muslim, without saying as much in plain speech.

I'm quite surprised that people didn't/don't understand it.

She is quite an aggressive person. She is a Starmer loyalist, though,so he is unlikely to sack her. She represents the constituency next door to ours but doesn't bother to campaign there because it is such a safe seat.

She is an idiot woman.

It's not a matter of her resigning. Starmer should assert himself and sack her at once.

I blame them both. Both using the issue as a political football serves no one, and that's been happening for some time.

I think all parties take the issue very very seriously indeed. No one wants less than the resources and will to act more effectively on abuse still continuing.

I'm not sure about Lucy Powell and what should happen. It was an angry retort to a political prod, but her reaction was definitely out of order.

Starmer only removes those who don't support his views^ I agree eazybee so if she doesn't go .

It basically means please stop talking because I don't have a coherent argument.

I don’t know what was said but have just looked it up because I had no idea what dog whistle is supposed to mean. We have guests here and they didn’t know either.
Basically politics related, aimed at the majority of voters who Woukd understand while avoiding upset to the minority….who wouldn’t. Or something like that. Examples given are only some dogs can hear a high pitched whistle.

Yes Paul Embery has been a consistent voice for years now, I wish labour would listen to him.

Blue Labour knows what needs to resonate with the public, it's not the likes of Lucy Powell, but they keep digging the Lucy Powells, you really don't hear the palpable anger expressed by communities, the core base of Labour where the defections are down to people like her, unconnected and not listening. She really needs to go.

eazybee

Well. I'm a member of the older generation and I had never heard the term 'dog whistle' used in a pejorative sense before. I now know, thanks to google what it means.
How uncouth. What an unpleasant women. She should go but of course she won't because she is only expressing the Labour party's beliefs about the Grooming gangs. Starmer only removes those who don't support his views.

Not one I've come across either, until very recently. First termed in America by Richard Morin of the WP. Then used by a William Safire, who suggested political campainers used the term!!