“Britain is ‘Servant of Communist China?'

Quite barmy.

M0nica

I think many people have been warning about the dangers of China for at least a decade - at the same time as they keep buying goods made in China because they are the cheapest on the market.

Now we have no alternative to buying Chinese because manufacturing in other countries has been destroyed, which was always Chinese intent.

Other than electronics, actually virtually everything can be purchased UK or European made -I’m on a mission to do that. The only downsides are the time it takes to track down what you want, and the fact that some things (not all) are more expensive - on the plus side though, they are generally better made.

lafergar

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Islamist residents with their medieval ideas and Chinese goods in stores with market influence.
Yes.
We can have both it seems. 🤷‍♀️

Is it me or is this sort of nonsense just getting worse and worse?

Perhaps you should look around you a little wider, see what others see. Not just reply on the Guardian and the beeb for news.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Islamist residents with their medieval ideas and Chinese goods in stores with market influence.
Yes.
We can have both it seems. 🤷‍♀️

Is it me or is this sort of nonsense just getting worse and worse?

Chocolatelovinggran

Golly, that's confusing. Only a couple if weeks ago, Mr Trump's other BFF, Mr Vance, explained that the UK was becoming an Islamic state.
Perhaps we can be both.

God forbid.

I think many people have been warning about the dangers of China for at least a decade - at the same time as they keep buying goods made in China because they are the cheapest on the market.

Now we have no alternative to buying Chinese because manufacturing in other countries has been destroyed, which was always Chinese intent.

Wyllow3

Now there's a thought 😂😂😂

thankfully, its now looking like the past bessie friend Musk has shut up telling us who we are and what we should do.

Well, Mr Musk is currently having to deal with watching his Tesla empire taking a severe dent due to his association with Mr Trump. Ditto X, formerly known as Twitter.

Looks like Musk's star is waning. And his billions.

I wonder if he heard the saying "be nice to people on the way up because you might meet the same one's on the way down......"

Love it , Willow3! You’re probably right,too. Alliances are changing, Orwell’s 1984 all over again.

He's been warning the UK about it for quite some time. Here he is in 2023

unherd.com/newsroom/sir-richard-dearlove-british-elites-are-chinas-useful-idiots/

Personally I think he should now be issuing warnings about the US 🙂

Wyllow3

Gosh, GB "news", who'd have thought it? Must be true.

The interview was real. I watched it.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well I’m with Sir Richard Dearlove on this Wyllow.
Most definitely.

Yes, but being with Sir Richard Dearlove, does not mean that we have any reason to give credence to what some member of the Trump adminstration says. We know they just spout out anything that comes into their head without thinking.

I think western countries as a whole have been slow to realise the danger of exporting all our manufacturing to one dominant country, especially when that includes high tech electronic equipment. This is the result of the rampant untrammeled capitalism introduced by Mrs Thatcher and President Reagon. Before that country's took a more measured view of balancing trade with national security and a balanced home economy.

According to the Independent today, the hackers who attacked
M&S have cost the retailer millions of pounds a day.BUT “the incident is just the tip of the iceberg and could be providing a blueprint for countries such as Russia and North Korea to bring our increasingly interconnected society to a halt.”

Gosh, GB "news", who'd have thought it? Must be true.

Elegran

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well I’m with Sir Richard Dearlove on this Wyllow.
Most definitely.

I don't think anyone thinks that Labour is NOT cognisant of the risks, FGT. They were none of them born yesterday.

Lammy? The new Chinese embassy location?

Yes, Wyllow Sir Richard Dearlove said the Labour Party need to be aware and make sensible decisions on our relationship with the Chinese. It was on the Camilla Tominey programme this morning. I’m sure you can source it. I’m going out now so apologies.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

We need to be more aware of China in general says Sir Richard Dearlove, he who was the head of M16. He said this morning on tv that Labour need to be cognisant of the risks. Surely that’s sensible?

I can find absolutely no record of Richard Dearlove on TV this morning saying that "He said this morning on tv that Labour need to be cognisant of the risks".

Googling shows he has a right bee in his bonnet about China and risks, over the last few months, with zero evidence this government is "in the dark", specifically attacking the Labour Party.

Let's have the source, FGT, please, to check for ourselves?

I suspect that what Navarro actually knows about what is happening in the UK could be written on a single sheet of A4. It’s just a cheap ploy to defend the USA stance on China, which is having a cart and horses driven through it.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well I’m with Sir Richard Dearlove on this Wyllow.
Most definitely.

I don't think anyone thinks that Labour is NOT cognisant of the risks, FGT. They were none of them born yesterday.

FGT - frankly there are enough conspiracy theories floating around in the USA, without importing them, especially with a racist tinge.

Was replying to Chocolatelovinggran.

Now there's a thought 😂😂😂

thankfully, its now looking like the past bessie friend Musk has shut up telling us who we are and what we should do.

Well I’m with Sir Richard Dearlove on this Wyllow.
Most definitely.

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Golly, that's confusing. Only a couple if weeks ago, Mr Trump's other BFF, Mr Vance, explained that the UK was becoming an Islamic state.
Perhaps we can be both.

Yes - but I see no indications we are not sensible.

Why should we agree with a Trump/Narvarro manipulative set of statements of how we are, thank you very much!

We need to be more aware of China in general says Sir Richard Dearlove, he who was the head of M16. He said this morning on tv that Labour need to be cognisant of the risks. Surely that’s sensible?