Israel to "conquer" Gaza

Rubbish*David*. The Israelis are not suffering like the Gazans, Americans, living in Montana or Florida didn't suffer like the Vietnamese, the Iraqis, the Afghans etc. In the first and second WW, British civilians didn't starve or get trench foot! The Americans destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki but Japanese civilians living on other islands were largely unaffected. Everyone in Gaza is affected by this war. Every single human in Gaza, whether they support Hamas or not and they cannot escape the bombs and the relentless violence.

Civilians suffer far more than combatants in every war it never changes, very often from starvation and disease, made worse by fanatics that would not accept defeat - Germany, Japan, Gaza. Genocide, they’ve all done it, including the US, Russia and UK.

Yes, it distresses me like that foxie - that's the human side of whats being proposed in the O/P.

It does distress me foxie48, but "nothing" seems to get through the wall.
I hope nothing ever does, because it would have to be very terrible, and I don't trust Netanyahu not to descend to those depths, especially with Trump enabling him.

Does anyone still believe that Israel's actions in Gaza are justified? If you do, then I have no words to change your mind because I think "nothing" would change your mind. It wouldn't matter how many children were blown up, how many medics were killed on their way to give help to injured people, how many journalists trying to get news of the atrocities being committed in Gaza got shot, you will always believe that every man, woman and child in Gaza is part of Hamas and therefore it doesn't matter if they are killed. It won't matter how many deaths, what degree of starvation, what degradation is inflicted on Gazans by the IDF, it will always be justified. You will support crimes against humanity because basically, you don't believe Gazans are like you and because they are not like you, it doesn't matter what they have to endure, their suffering is deserved because back in 2006, nearly 20 years ago, by a very narrow margin, Gazans voted against a corrupt PA and voted for Hamas so they deserve everything they are getting.

Jordan and Egypt were offered the costs of taking more refugees so it wasn't that.

valdavi

Why make it complicated? Egypt & Jordan have said they won't accept Palestinians as they refuse to be cpomplicit in ethnic cleansing.
In the circumstances we can all see that's a valid reason. Why make up others to fit our own agenda?

A reason originally given when Trump first discussed it and they refused simply that both countries already have large numbers of very long standing Palestinian refugees and simply cannot take anymore.

Okay GNs, if the mass, unending of killing of women and children and doctors and nurses and reporters in Gaza is not ethnic cleansing, then what would you call it?

X posts David49

It suits their agenda to use the ethnic cleansing excuse.

valdavi

Why make it complicated? Egypt & Jordan have said they won't accept Palestinians as they refuse to be cpomplicit in ethnic cleansing.
In the circumstances we can all see that's a valid reason. Why make up others to fit our own agenda?

You are joking? Those countries have enough of their own home grown terrorists and don’t want any hamas slipping through, also they don’t want the cost of anymore refugees.

Anniebach

They fear Hamas

They have enough of their own internal terrorists without Hamas adding to the problem

Why make it complicated? Egypt & Jordan have said they won't accept Palestinians as they refuse to be cpomplicit in ethnic cleansing.
In the circumstances we can all see that's a valid reason. Why make up others to fit our own agenda?

They fear Hamas

Whitewavemark2

Egypt, Jordan and other countries have said that they will not accept Palestinian refugees from Gaza as they will not be complicit in ethnic cleansing.

They simply don’t want them.

Egypt, Jordan and other countries have said that they will not accept Palestinian refugees from Gaza as they will not be complicit in ethnic cleansing.

South of Gaza not south go Gaza

Whatever the ins and outs of any programmes, it remains a fact that some Israelis supported by the current regime are occupying/settling the West Bank:

The proposals outlined in the O/P are also facts, and are to move a whole population to the south go Gaza, with aid given out by US private military contractors, and Trump is backing these moves as he made his intentions quite clear weeks ago.

Apologies if I've misunderstood Annie but you seem to be doubting the validity of the 'The Settlers' simply because a previous documentary about Gaza was discredited.

Agree, but if can be done once can be done again,,BBC has now
apologised for another of their programmes, not related to
Gaza

One discredited documentary doesn't mean that there's no truth in subsequent ones Annie.

27th February, BBC apologised for the Gaza documentary, April brings a new documentary, don’t give do they

maremia I did watch ‘The Settlers’.
For me it reinforced:
-that people are very firm in their belief that they are right
- a huge amount of horror is based on random quotes from the Bible
- that Palestinians are treated as second class citizens by the Israeli military.

I thought Louis Theroux did a good job, as always, of allowing people enough space to express their thoughts without judgement.
It wasn’t an easy watch for sure.

The citizens of the US have long supported Israel but that support is lessening quite a lot and support for Palestinians has risen.
Netanyahu and his entourage are as bad as Hamas and those suffering the most are Palestinians who don't support Hamas.
The support for Netanyahu is diminishing even in the US.

Seems things are changing now , not forgetting when the film
Judgement at Nuremberg was made, early 60’s, many had been. Found guilty and sentenced to life, not one guilty person
was still in jail 1961. Things were changing then ?