Incident in Water St Liverpool

LizzieDrip

I accept I’m probably an outlier here. I’m not on any other SM apart from GN, and have no desire to be.

I find it difficult to get into the head of someone who witnesses a tragic event, films it on their phone … and then immediately uploads it to SM🤷‍♀️

As I say, I know I’m probably in the minority, and I’m fine with that.

You’re probably not in the minority. I completely agree with you and I do have other social media

Doodledog

Oops. I obviously didn’t press ‘send’ too soon😂

Stil, the question remains. Why assay I was being racist?

I'm one of the (hopefully) many GNetters who know you were not being racist.

The police have apparently learned from the Southport riots and acted quickly to quell speculation as to the perpetrator and his motives. If he had a motive or was just trying to escape from the swelling crowd. As to his movement in that road it has been speculated that he followed behind an ambulance already travelling down it, so were barriers in place to stop vehicles or not? Nobody seems to know.

The footage was taken and immediately sent to us and now we know the facts, apart from the thoughts of the driver

Karmalady but why? Why did you need to ‘know the facts’ immediately?

Unless you’re directly involved or a member of the authorities investigating the incident, it’s not necessary for any of us to ‘know the facts immediately’.

I’m not trying to ‘change anybody’s POV’; I realise the SM speed genie is out of the bottle. I’m just stating that I don’t get it!

Dickens

Doodledog

Oops. I obviously didn’t press ‘send’ too soon😂

Stil, the question remains. Why assay I was being racist?

I'm one of the (hopefully) many GNetters who know you were not being racist.

Thank you

I just hope those who have been hurt make a speedy recovery and are not permanently damaged. We just had an incident in Melbourne with a bus veering off course and hitting cars and a truck. They showed the whole thing on tv, it looked horrific. Thankfully no one was badly hurt and the driver only received minor injuries. I think in this case it would have been a medical incident, it looked as though he had completely lost control.

Nobody will know the facts until the trial.

None of us know the facts.

It is sufficient to read a report that a number of people were killed, maimed and injured as a result of a car being driven into them.

That is all we need to know, except perhaps that the perpetrator has been apprehended and so poses no further threat.

Why on earth are ( yes! Some) posters getting angry with other posters and lashing out right left and centre?
It’s an awful incident in Liverpool, we understandably want to know the facts surrounding it and if possible the ‘why’ of it happening.That bit will be made clearer in time.
To those who are up in arms about others daring to watch the footage, don’t you watch any tv reports for instance of any on the ground footage of incidents happening throughout the world?
Time to act like the mature people our age suggests on this matter in my view.

nanna8

I just hope those who have been hurt make a speedy recovery and are not permanently damaged. We just had an incident in Melbourne with a bus veering off course and hitting cars and a truck. They showed the whole thing on tv, it looked horrific. Thankfully no one was badly hurt and the driver only received minor injuries. I think in this case it would have been a medical incident, it looked as though he had completely lost control.

Yes that sort of accident must happen a lot I think.

I've stopped watching the news, it just makes me sad and anxious. I listen to it on the radio, read the BBC webpage occasionally but I've made a conscious decision not to expose myself to, too much

People can’t live in a bubble, or in denial.

Things are happening everywhere. People watch the news and read newspapers for information. Others look on social media. It’s always been this way.

The News now shows things that would never have been shown in the past. Dead bodies, people about to be executed and so on. I suppose it's because technology means that the things can be caught on camera more easily than before, but I don't like it.

There doesn't seem to be the respect for people's dignity that there used to be. Suffering is bad enough, but knowing that millions of people have seen the footage of the suffering is humiliating and unnecessary, I think.

woodenspoon

People can’t live in a bubble, or in denial.

Things are happening everywhere. People watch the news and read newspapers for information. Others look on social media. It’s always been this way.

Exactly. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning some of the things some people film and put on social media, but we have to face the fact that the genie is well and truly out of the bottle as far as that is concerned. You can choose what you watch to a certain extent, but you can't really avoid it altogether (unless you live like a hermit).

Perhaps injured people want everyone to see what the car driver has done.
Some will, some won’t maybe.
The camera has been capturing life as it happens for a very long time now.

You've just reminded me of Mitchell and Kenyon

Actually, examining film footage not only helps the public understand what has happened but assists the Police as well.

What I would like to see change though is the non-stop coverage of an event that very little is know about, padded out with legions of on-the-scene reporters and studio guests who have nothing to add.

The BBC News channel on Freeview 231 reported on nothing else yesterday evening, showing amateur footage accompanied by speculation, despite the police asking that people didn’t. By people that should included broadcasters trying to fill their schedules with lazy journalism.

I know this is an extremely serious matter and I am not seeking to diminish it any way but there is other news happening in the country and the world.

As for amateur footage, it becomes part of evidence, as will CCTV, helping the police to build a picture of the sequence of events.

Oreo

Actually, examining film footage not only helps the public understand what has happened but assists the Police as well.

Agreed, but it can be sent to the police, rather than posted on X or FB.

The more violent content that humans view, the more we become desensitised to it. It’s how the human brain works.

Desensitisation to the distress of others diminishes humans’ ability to empathise.

Empathy with the plight of others is what holds us together as human beings.

That’s the mature approach!

More likely to be empathy if people can see what happened rather than in a few dry sentences from a news reader.

It would be nice if we could return to the subject rather than get angry about whether the public should be allowed to view news scenes.

Oreo

It would be nice if we could return to the subject rather than get angry about whether the public should be allowed to view news scenes.

It would be nice if posters could post freely without intervention from the thread monitor.

I could have put money on you saying that growstuff 😄
Always there with a merry quip.

growstuff

Oreo

It would be nice if we could return to the subject rather than get angry about whether the public should be allowed to view news scenes.

It would be nice if posters could post freely without intervention from the thread monitor.

😊

And here’s Whitewavemark2 now that’s a surprise 🤔