Denmark and immigration

They banned the veil in 2018, but not the headscarf.

In terms of "values",I think there has been substantial change.

In the UK there is often a great difference between first generation incomers and third generation citizens without moving families by law.

School and uni influences, entry into the workforce sometimes at high levels - including of course girls and women.
Good examples are young people choosing their own spouse and figures on first cousin marriages dropping steadily over time.

I've witnessed the change over time of seeing very few women wearing the burka now as opposed to on first arrival. Another obvious change has been that second and third generation citizens are bi-lingual.

I noticed just last week in the park on a "Day out" groups of mixed race schoolchildren chattering away in English of course about video games and other 7 year old interests - only half the girls had a headscarf - it wouldn't have been like that 20 years ago nor in the 1970's in the first wave of immigration when I lived in a street of people and only the boys "played out".

I think problems arise depending on the size of the communities people live in and of course the difference between different interpretations of how you should live as a Muslim.

It's all very well suggesting "moving them out" but how? British citizens can choose where we want to live, and if we can, we chose to live where we feel accepted

- do you pick on individual families or groups of families - do we send them into hostile places (and there are certainly plenty of those).

Interesting. I'm sure Whitewavemark2's example is echoed throughout the country but we don't hear about them.

I do have a first hand example of what might be evidence of this working in practice.

A young professional woman has recently joined our family. Her family came here from a Middle East country. They are Christian, but hold very conservative cultural values, and this young woman was expected to adhere to their cultural norms for women in their family - remaining at home until marriage etc. This young woman who had been born in the U.K., and educated in a school, which is primarily of white children, absorbed these different values and when she reached 16 she simply rejected her parents values and left home. Sad.y they have not yet been reconciled. She is now in her 20s having put herself through university and now doing a higher degree and working in a career associated with her degree. She has entirely absorbed western values and culture as I assume the Danish government is hoping will happen there.

And that, I think, in essence for me and maybe many others, is all part of the problem.

Values and types of behaviour, dont change, and havent, by moving countries.
So moving within one, is unlikely to work either. In my opinion.

Getting women out of the "ghettos" has always been more about culture I would have thought.
So wont make much difference? If any?

The rules of certain religions wont be changing for women, where ever they are? Unfortunatly?

Else they could have changed by people moving countries. But they dont appear to have. At all?

Mmmm Very interesting, it’ll will also be interesting to see the outcome.

In principle and theory I see the sense, in practice 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️