About time? Could this work? Yvette Cooper thinks so.

Sounds good. Will probably cost an obscene amount, but it's going to come to this in the end, anyway.

Something needs to be done/tried as this ridiculous situation needs to be addressed.
It might even work as a deterrent.

I hate the idea of ID cards. But I have forgotten why!

Everyone will be tagged? Aka Germany in the war?

fancythat

I hate the idea of ID cards. But I have forgotten why!

Everyone will be tagged? Aka Germany in the war?

Every country in Europe has id cards, except UK and Denmark.

Everybody had an ID card in Britain in the war.

I’ve still got mine!

It didn’t seem to harm anyone.

When boat people land, the Home Office takes charge of them and I'm very sure they are registered and documented in UK with some kind of ID. Essential for claiming asylum, which is why they've come.

Read it here.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjekx34d70o

But not for jobs in the black market. Cash in hand. No questions asked.

David Blunkett wanted to introduce them in 2006 - he wasn't allowed to do so.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

David Blunkett wanted to introduce them in 2006 - he wasn't allowed to do so.

He was introducing them, there was an Act in 2006, but it was repealed by the Cameron/Clegg government in the Identity Documents Act of 2010, which reversed the introduction of identity cards, and required the destruction of the information held on the National Identity Register. What a mistake that was.

Thinking about it, Yvette Cooper would have been involved in the previous scheme - hopefully if it is introduced now the path might be smoother.

Casdon

FriedGreenTomatoes2

David Blunkett wanted to introduce them in 2006 - he wasn't allowed to do so.

He was introducing them, there was an Act in 2006, but it was repealed by the Cameron/Clegg government in the Identity Documents Act of 2010, which reversed the introduction of identity cards, and required the destruction of the information held on the National Identity Register. What a mistake that was.

Yes- blame the LibDems for resisting ID cards back in the days of the coalition. Shame they didn't resist the referendum!
We carry cards for everything these days- our phones contain data that so many faceless people have access to, and we even need ID to vote!
Young people have to carry ID to get served in pubs.
So, no I don't have a problem with them at all and I think it will help cut out fraud and identity theft across the board.
Bring them on, that's what I say!

There was me thinking it was a coalition government, Tory/Lib Dem keepingquiet, I didn’t realise it was just Lib Dem.

I don't mind physical ID cards, but having it all digitalised is a worry to me. I could be deleted at any moment!

Casdon

There was me thinking it was a coalition government, Tory/Lib Dem keepingquiet, I didn’t realise it was just Lib Dem.

It was one of the issues the LibDems pushed on, as was the referendum on election reform which nobody seems to remember.
Lib Dems were always oppsoed to ID cards as they saw them as an infringement on human rights and too much state control.
I'm not too sure how the Tories felt about them, but I think it may still be Lib Dem policy to oppose them?
Coalitions aren't effective forms of government, as we learned from this disastrous one...

I think now I don't mind one but afraid of losing it.

keepingquiet

Casdon

There was me thinking it was a coalition government, Tory/Lib Dem keepingquiet, I didn’t realise it was just Lib Dem.

It was one of the issues the LibDems pushed on, as was the referendum on election reform which nobody seems to remember.
Lib Dems were always oppsoed to ID cards as they saw them as an infringement on human rights and too much state control.
I'm not too sure how the Tories felt about them, but I think it may still be Lib Dem policy to oppose them?
Coalitions aren't effective forms of government, as we learned from this disastrous one...

The point I was making keepingquiet is that in a coalition government, both the parties have to work together to carry any motion, so whoever thought of any scheme, both are responsible for the decision to implement it. You can’t blame one party and not the other if that decision is wrong.

fancythat

I hate the idea of ID cards. But I have forgotten why!

Everyone will be tagged? Aka Germany in the war?

Everyone will be tagged?

Yes. We're all going to have a microchip inserted so that if we wander off, someone can take us to the GP who can scan it and return us to our rightful owner.
🤔

It's about time we had ID cards, but would forgers soon be on to it?

Well we do fingerprint everyone who arrives so if they are on a data base in Europe it's checked out and can be used if crimes committed. Not the same as an ID card I agree.

It would be expensive that's always been a problem and also the forgeries/going underground issue a problem but other countries have had to deal with that.

I’m all for them for so many reasons.

I think they could be so useful, allergies, medication and emergency contacts, proof of age, etc etc

I have no issue whatsoever with ID cards.

Allira

fancythat

I hate the idea of ID cards. But I have forgotten why!

Everyone will be tagged? Aka Germany in the war?

Everyone will be tagged?

Yes. We're all going to have a microchip inserted so that if we wander off, someone can take us to the GP who can scan it and return us to our rightful owner.
🤔

It's about time we had ID cards, but would forgers soon be on to it?

Our French residence cards have embedded fingerprints.

Most people.carry a driving licence, so what's wrong with an ID card? If it helps to cut down fraud then bring it on.

The OP states
"Yvette Cooper said the Home Office was pushing for a “digital ID for everyone coming to the UK"

It's nothing to do with everyone having ID cards.

I really don't see what is wrong with ID cards - digital and/or paper. I think France says that one of the draws of illegal migration to this country is our lack of ID cards.
I wonder if our civil service is up to the challenge.

Of course - absolute no brainer. Live in UK - Must have DNA taken and linked to Photo ID which you carry and produce. Also linked to NHS details and any other relationship with the government. Good for us and bad for criminals.