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About time? Could this work? Yvette Cooper thinks so.

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keepingquiet Tue 03-Jun-25 23:26:37

Casdon

There was me thinking it was a coalition government, Tory/Lib Dem keepingquiet, I didn’t realise it was just Lib Dem.

It was one of the issues the LibDems pushed on, as was the referendum on election reform which nobody seems to remember.
Lib Dems were always oppsoed to ID cards as they saw them as an infringement on human rights and too much state control.
I'm not too sure how the Tories felt about them, but I think it may still be Lib Dem policy to oppose them?
Coalitions aren't effective forms of government, as we learned from this disastrous one...

NanaRayna Tue 03-Jun-25 21:18:33

I don't mind physical ID cards, but having it all digitalised is a worry to me. I could be deleted at any moment!

Casdon Tue 03-Jun-25 21:08:06

There was me thinking it was a coalition government, Tory/Lib Dem keepingquiet, I didn’t realise it was just Lib Dem.

keepingquiet Tue 03-Jun-25 21:04:43

Casdon

FriedGreenTomatoes2

David Blunkett wanted to introduce them in 2006 - he wasn't allowed to do so.

He was introducing them, there was an Act in 2006, but it was repealed by the Cameron/Clegg government in the Identity Documents Act of 2010, which reversed the introduction of identity cards, and required the destruction of the information held on the National Identity Register. What a mistake that was.

Yes- blame the LibDems for resisting ID cards back in the days of the coalition. Shame they didn't resist the referendum!
We carry cards for everything these days- our phones contain data that so many faceless people have access to, and we even need ID to vote!
Young people have to carry ID to get served in pubs.
So, no I don't have a problem with them at all and I think it will help cut out fraud and identity theft across the board.
Bring them on, that's what I say!

Casdon Tue 03-Jun-25 20:46:54

Thinking about it, Yvette Cooper would have been involved in the previous scheme - hopefully if it is introduced now the path might be smoother.

Casdon Tue 03-Jun-25 20:38:00

FriedGreenTomatoes2

David Blunkett wanted to introduce them in 2006 - he wasn't allowed to do so.

He was introducing them, there was an Act in 2006, but it was repealed by the Cameron/Clegg government in the Identity Documents Act of 2010, which reversed the introduction of identity cards, and required the destruction of the information held on the National Identity Register. What a mistake that was.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 03-Jun-25 20:21:48

David Blunkett wanted to introduce them in 2006 - he wasn't allowed to do so.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 03-Jun-25 20:16:14

But not for jobs in the black market. Cash in hand. No questions asked.

butterandjam Tue 03-Jun-25 19:57:15

When boat people land, the Home Office takes charge of them and I'm very sure they are registered and documented in UK with some kind of ID. Essential for claiming asylum, which is why they've come.

Read it here.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjekx34d70o

Lathyrus3 Tue 03-Jun-25 19:38:23

Everybody had an ID card in Britain in the war.

I’ve still got mine!

It didn’t seem to harm anyone.

Casdon Tue 03-Jun-25 19:35:10

fancythat

I hate the idea of ID cards. But I have forgotten why!

Everyone will be tagged? Aka Germany in the war?

Every country in Europe has id cards, except UK and Denmark.

fancythat Tue 03-Jun-25 19:32:31

I hate the idea of ID cards. But I have forgotten why!

Everyone will be tagged? Aka Germany in the war?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 03-Jun-25 19:28:32

Something needs to be done/tried as this ridiculous situation needs to be addressed.
It might even work as a deterrent.

valdavi Tue 03-Jun-25 19:26:43

Sounds good. Will probably cost an obscene amount, but it's going to come to this in the end, anyway.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 03-Jun-25 19:22:26

I do too. ID cards.
Well something needs to change?

“The Home Secretary has called for the creation of a digital service for e-visas and border control which would allow the Government to figure out who is in Britain legally.

Yvette Cooper faced questions from MPs after record numbers of migrants crossed the Channel over the weekend.

Nearly 1,200 made the crossing illegally on Saturday, the highest number of people so far this year in a single day.

Defence Secretary John Healey later admitted that Britain had “lost control of its borders”.

Yvette Cooper said the Home Office was pushing for a “digital ID for everyone coming to the UK”.

She said: “We want to have a digital service linked to e-visas and linked to our border management process to be able to determine whether an individual is in or out of the UK, whether they have left at the point at which their visa expires or whether they are overstaying and immigration enforcement action is needed.”

She added: “We also want to ensure e-visas can effectively be used as a way of having that digital ID around the ability to work, to be here lawfully.”