Zia Yusuf

growstuff

Teazel2

I honestly cannot understand the barrage of abuse towards NF and Reform on this forum. No political party is perfect, many big egos bouncing about! However, Reform seem to at least care about the concerns of many of us, like it or not, they are becoming a party that many are turning to. In fact, from what I read in one of the papers today, Europe seems to be leaning towards the right.

I'm sure many people are aware that many people are turning towards Reform. I expect many people also understand why so many people are fed up with the traditional parties. Maybe you could explain Teazel what Reform's policies are and how they would alleviate the problems which many people are experiencing. Maybe you could also explain what Yusuf stands for because I really don't know.

Thank you in anticipation.

Was that a conservative or Labour MP in that letter? Good letter.

Sorry, wrong reference. I was going to say to Teasel that yes people are voting for Reform primarily because of immigration, but what will Reform do about it specifically - this is the big one.

Wyllow3

Sorry, wrong reference. I was going to say to Teasel that yes people are voting for Reform primarily because of immigration, but what will Reform do about it specifically - this is the big one.

That will be very interesting to see, my hope is that the UK can leave the ECHR . This is what Kemi is advocating.

My post was more focusing on not understanding the levels of vitriol directed towards Reform on this forum rather than .reform policies.

Who would separate a party from its policies Teazel? Fundamentally Reform is reviled because they stand for making hay for the rich at the expense of the poor. If they laid out in plain English what they would actually do if elected they would not get many votes. It’s all playing out now in the USA.

Teazel2

Wyllow3

Sorry, wrong reference. I was going to say to Teasel that yes people are voting for Reform primarily because of immigration, but what will Reform do about it specifically - this is the big one.

That will be very interesting to see, my hope is that the UK can leave the ECHR . This is what Kemi is advocating.

My post was more focusing on not understanding the levels of vitriol directed towards Reform on this forum rather than .reform policies.

Teazel2, I think you may be sadly mistaken about what the removal of the European Human rights act will achieve.

The United States have no Human Rights bill as such but still had had huge number so undocumented arrivals

and their removal is being fought over at the moment by rights enshrined in the Constitution which are not so different from ours.

So in the USA Trump is now overruling such rights as Habeas corpus (the right to a trial) which we hold dear and our courts have much more protection from parliament than there is in the USA.

It would have a marginal effect in the UK sit won't affect the numbers of people we accept as refugees/asylum seekers who are the majority of arrivals, it will only affect those turned down for refugee status. And even then, to deport them, the movement has to get permission from the country they want to return them to.

So you see Reform can't make the difference it and Braverman promisee, its fairly marginal.

so we are left with stopping the boats, and how will Reform do this

Teazel2

Wyllow3

Sorry, wrong reference. I was going to say to Teasel that yes people are voting for Reform primarily because of immigration, but what will Reform do about it specifically - this is the big one.

That will be very interesting to see, my hope is that the UK can leave the ECHR . This is what Kemi is advocating.

My post was more focusing on not understanding the levels of vitriol directed towards Reform on this forum rather than .reform policies.

It might be an idea to start a new thread. This one is specifically about Zia Yusuf and what exactly is going on within Reform and its internal politics because I haven't a clue what his resignation and un-resignation means.

Wyllow3

Teazel2

Wyllow3

Sorry, wrong reference. I was going to say to Teasel that yes people are voting for Reform primarily because of immigration, but what will Reform do about it specifically - this is the big one.

That will be very interesting to see, my hope is that the UK can leave the ECHR . This is what Kemi is advocating.

My post was more focusing on not understanding the levels of vitriol directed towards Reform on this forum rather than .reform policies.

Teazel2, I think you may be sadly mistaken about what the removal of the European Human rights act will achieve.

The United States have no Human Rights bill as such but still had had huge number so undocumented arrivals

and their removal is being fought over at the moment by rights enshrined in the Constitution which are not so different from ours.

So in the USA Trump is now overruling such rights as Habeas corpus (the right to a trial) which we hold dear and our courts have much more protection from parliament than there is in the USA.

It would have a marginal effect in the UK sit won't affect the numbers of people we accept as refugees/asylum seekers who are the majority of arrivals, it will only affect those turned down for refugee status. And even then, to deport them, the movement has to get permission from the country they want to return them to.

So you see Reform can't make the difference it and Braverman promisee, its fairly marginal.

*so we are left with stopping the boats, and how will Reform do this*

I think if the political will was there, a way would be found. Reform hopefully have that, I feel this government dont. There have been solutions mooted such as using a remote island somewhere which is British owned.

Teazel What part do you think Zia Yusuf would play in all this?

Teazel2

Wyllow3

Teazel2

Wyllow3

Sorry, wrong reference. I was going to say to Teasel that yes people are voting for Reform primarily because of immigration, but what will Reform do about it specifically - this is the big one.

That will be very interesting to see, my hope is that the UK can leave the ECHR . This is what Kemi is advocating.

My post was more focusing on not understanding the levels of vitriol directed towards Reform on this forum rather than .reform policies.

Teazel2, I think you may be sadly mistaken about what the removal of the European Human rights act will achieve.

The United States have no Human Rights bill as such but still had had huge number so undocumented arrivals

and their removal is being fought over at the moment by rights enshrined in the Constitution which are not so different from ours.

So in the USA Trump is now overruling such rights as Habeas corpus (the right to a trial) which we hold dear and our courts have much more protection from parliament than there is in the USA.

It would have a marginal effect in the UK sit won't affect the numbers of people we accept as refugees/asylum seekers who are the majority of arrivals, it will only affect those turned down for refugee status. And even then, to deport them, the movement has to get permission from the country they want to return them to.

So you see Reform can't make the difference it and Braverman promisee, its fairly marginal.

*so we are left with stopping the boats, and how will Reform do this*

I think if the political will was there, a way would be found. Reform hopefully have that, I feel this government dont. There have been solutions mooted such as using a remote island somewhere which is British owned.

A major one i hope. I assume he belongs to Reform because he believes in their ideologies.

What are there ideologies please?

Apart from racism?

Teazel2

Teazel2

Wyllow3

Teazel2

Wyllow3

Sorry, wrong reference. I was going to say to Teasel that yes people are voting for Reform primarily because of immigration, but what will Reform do about it specifically - this is the big one.

That will be very interesting to see, my hope is that the UK can leave the ECHR . This is what Kemi is advocating.

My post was more focusing on not understanding the levels of vitriol directed towards Reform on this forum rather than .reform policies.

Teazel2, I think you may be sadly mistaken about what the removal of the European Human rights act will achieve.

The United States have no Human Rights bill as such but still had had huge number so undocumented arrivals

and their removal is being fought over at the moment by rights enshrined in the Constitution which are not so different from ours.

So in the USA Trump is now overruling such rights as Habeas corpus (the right to a trial) which we hold dear and our courts have much more protection from parliament than there is in the USA.

It would have a marginal effect in the UK sit won't affect the numbers of people we accept as refugees/asylum seekers who are the majority of arrivals, it will only affect those turned down for refugee status. And even then, to deport them, the movement has to get permission from the country they want to return them to.

So you see Reform can't make the difference it and Braverman promisee, its fairly marginal.

*so we are left with stopping the boats, and how will Reform do this*

I think if the political will was there, a way would be found. Reform hopefully have that, I feel this government dont. There have been solutions mooted such as using a remote island somewhere which is British owned.

A major one i hope. I assume he belongs to Reform because he believes in their ideologies.

According to hundreds of posts on Twitter, Yusuf doesn't believe in ideologies which Reform voters would support.

Here are some of the comments:

"We’ve got our gesture Muslim back…"
"You mean the Muslim brotherhood strongly advised you to rejoin Reform?"
"I don't believe you're doing this for free out of love for the country, DOGE is ripe for corruption and kickbacks."
"No more Islam ideology cult taking any further authority roles."
"You can't be serious. Go back to Pakistan, stay out of British politics."
"If you truly love this country. Leave politics to the British in Britain."
"Remigration (of parasitic squatters like yourself) is inevitable."
"So is it Islam before country or country before Islam Muslim MPs in the HOC support Palestine/Hamas before issues in the UK"

I'd also like to know what Reform's ideologies are.

Trying to hound out a man who was born in the UK goes much further than curbing immigration.

Frankly, I am bored with the Zia Yusuf show now but in other related news:

If you wondered why every time you switch on BBC News they seem to be featuring someone from or something about Reform, here’s Adam Bienkov, Political Editor for the Byline Times:

EXCLUSIVE: The BBC has drawn up plans to win over Reform voters by changing its news and drama output. BBC Director General Tim Davie and other execs discussed altering "story selection" in order to win the "trust" of supporters of Nigel Farage.

I asked a BBC spokesperson to set out any examples of the corporation drawing up specific plans to secure the support of voters for other political parties in the UK, but they were unable to do so.

bylinetimes.com/2025/06/09/bbc-news-tim-davie-robbie-gibb-reform-voters-nigel-farage-trust/

It has certainly been noticed by SM.

growstuff

Teazel What part do you think Zia Yusuf would play in all this?

Who knows? But, rest assured, whatever Reform may or may not stand for I'm certain they will allow us ladies to play a vital part: making the tea and sandwiches.

I saw that article, too.

Why is the BBC trying to 'win over Reform voters'? Aren't they supposed to be politically neutral and report in a balanced fashion?

Does the fact that the BBC management is stuffed with tory appointees, from the Director General down, anything to do with this?

An example. Headlines were on the u-turn on WFA.

The first politician to speak?

Farage.

This is so wrong.

It should be the official opposition and then the rest in seat order imo.

Reform are doing the same as Trump; making sure they’re constantly in the headlines even if it’s negative news about the party ( or whatever it now is ).

lafergar

What are there ideologies please?

Apart from racism?

Not a racist party

growstuff

Teazel2

Teazel2

Wyllow3

Teazel2

Wyllow3

Sorry, wrong reference. I was going to say to Teasel that yes people are voting for Reform primarily because of immigration, but what will Reform do about it specifically - this is the big one.

That will be very interesting to see, my hope is that the UK can leave the ECHR . This is what Kemi is advocating.

My post was more focusing on not understanding the levels of vitriol directed towards Reform on this forum rather than .reform policies.

Teazel2, I think you may be sadly mistaken about what the removal of the European Human rights act will achieve.

The United States have no Human Rights bill as such but still had had huge number so undocumented arrivals

and their removal is being fought over at the moment by rights enshrined in the Constitution which are not so different from ours.

So in the USA Trump is now overruling such rights as Habeas corpus (the right to a trial) which we hold dear and our courts have much more protection from parliament than there is in the USA.

It would have a marginal effect in the UK sit won't affect the numbers of people we accept as refugees/asylum seekers who are the majority of arrivals, it will only affect those turned down for refugee status. And even then, to deport them, the movement has to get permission from the country they want to return them to.

So you see Reform can't make the difference it and Braverman promisee, its fairly marginal.

*so we are left with stopping the boats, and how will Reform do this*

I think if the political will was there, a way would be found. Reform hopefully have that, I feel this government dont. There have been solutions mooted such as using a remote island somewhere which is British owned.

A major one i hope. I assume he belongs to Reform because he believes in their ideologies.

According to hundreds of posts on Twitter, Yusuf doesn't believe in ideologies which Reform voters would support.

Here are some of the comments:

"We’ve got our gesture Muslim back…"
"You mean the Muslim brotherhood strongly advised you to rejoin Reform?"
"I don't believe you're doing this for free out of love for the country, DOGE is ripe for corruption and kickbacks."
"No more Islam ideology cult taking any further authority roles."
"You can't be serious. Go back to Pakistan, stay out of British politics."
"If you truly love this country. Leave politics to the British in Britain."
"Remigration (of parasitic squatters like yourself) is inevitable."
"So is it Islam before country or country before Islam Muslim MPs in the HOC support Palestine/Hamas before issues in the UK"

I'd also like to know what Reform's ideologies are.

Trying to hound out a man who was born in the UK goes much further than curbing immigration.

Sadly I am not on twitter so have not seen any of these quotes. Who has tweeted them?

Teazel2

lafergar

What are there ideologies please?

Apart from racism?

Not a racist party

Some supporters are!

The supporters have tweeted them Teazel2 as per Growstuff's list.

They are all over Social media and not hard to find, truly. Really grim, worse than *Growstuff's quotes, too.

Wyllow3

The supporters have tweeted them Teazel2 as per Growstuff's list.

They are all over Social media and not hard to find, truly. Really grim, worse than *Growstuff's quotes, too.

Even Nigel Farage acknowledges the racism on social media. He blames "Indian bots". It's there Teazel2, even if you haven't seen it. Wyllow3 is correct - I didn't quote the worst of them, especially the ones with obscene language.

That's why I started the thread on Yusuf - I wanted to know what Reform supporters think of him. Is he really as unpopular as social media gives the impression? They were cheering when he originally resigned, so are they typical of Reform supporters? If that's the case, racism seems to be at the core of the hatred. Those comments aren't just about controlling immigration; they're about hating a British-born man who has brown skin and has parents who come from Sri Lanka.

growstuff

Wyllow3

The supporters have tweeted them Teazel2 as per Growstuff's list.

They are all over Social media and not hard to find, truly. Really grim, worse than *Growstuff's quotes, too.

Even Nigel Farage acknowledges the racism on social media. He blames "Indian bots". It's there Teazel2, even if you haven't seen it. Wyllow3 is correct - I didn't quote the worst of them, especially the ones with obscene language.

That's why I started the thread on Yusuf - I wanted to know what Reform supporters think of him. Is he really as unpopular as social media gives the impression? They were cheering when he originally resigned, so are they typical of Reform supporters? If that's the case, racism seems to be at the core of the hatred. Those comments aren't just about controlling immigration; they're about hating a British-born man who has brown skin and has parents who come from Sri Lanka.

I havent seen them but it sounds awful. Its just so easy to hurl accusations of racism towards any Reform supporter, I am sure it exists in supporters of any political party.

How do you know those comments don’t come from Labour Party supporters trying to discredit Farage? I totally wouldn’t be surprised these days, anything goes. Think about it.

This thread is ridiculous with all the long quotes on every post. You can rest easy he is back. A man of principle indeed.