Zia Yusuf

Quite a lot of things are ridiculous. Farage being one of them.
The fact that people are so filled with hate they like the man, being another.

Teasel had 7. Is one supposed to read again all the posts already read?

nanna8

How do you know those comments don’t come from Labour Party supporters trying to discredit Farage? I totally wouldn’t be surprised these days, anything goes. Think about it.

I did think about it, so I checked out the posting history of some of the posters who made racist comments. Of course they could be Labour supporters or bots or just about anyone, but their past comments certainly look like Reform supporters.

Allsorts I don't know that much about Yusuf, but I certainly agree that he appears to be a man of principle. If I'm honest, I don't "rest easy" because he seems (to me anyway) the acceptable face of Reform amongst a very bad lot.

Allsorts I apologise about contributing to the long posts. I'm often in two minds about quoting like that. The alternative sometimes is that people assume pots are directed at the wrong people.

The Labour government is going to disband many of the county councils, and put unitary councils in their place.

Let’s hope that is before Reform cause too much damage and chaos.

lafergar

Quite a lot of things are ridiculous. Farage being one of them.
The fact that people are so filled with hate they like the man, being another.

It is a shame you think like that, I am not filled with hate for anyone and neither are family and friends who vote Reform. Their policies resonate with commonsense.

growstuff

nanna8

How do you know those comments don’t come from Labour Party supporters trying to discredit Farage? I totally wouldn’t be surprised these days, anything goes. Think about it.

I did think about it, so I checked out the posting history of some of the posters who made racist comments. Of course they could be Labour supporters or bots or just about anyone, but their past comments certainly look like Reform supporters.

When I read articles online about such subjects as illegal immigration for example, and the comments underneath the article, so many comments are such that have been described on here that are similar to the tweets. They could be anyone, why would they all be Reform voters?

Teazel2

lafergar

Quite a lot of things are ridiculous. Farage being one of them.
The fact that people are so filled with hate they like the man, being another.

It is a shame you think like that, I am not filled with hate for anyone and neither are family and friends who vote Reform. Their policies resonate with commonsense.

Resonate how? Please? Anything?

Teazel I think we all know about bots. For that matter, how do you know who's posting negative comments about Keir Starmer or Angela Rayner? Do you think they're all bots or trouble makers?

That's why I looked up the posting history of some of the posters who had posted vile racist abuse addressed at Yusuf. In the past, they've supported Tommy Robinson or posts made by Rupert Lowe and there are other signs they are genuine Reform supporters. There are thousands of them! If they're not typical Reform voters, why do all the genuinely nice Reform voters remain so quiet?

Whitewavemark2

The Labour government is going to disband many of the county councils, and put unitary councils in their place.

Let’s hope that is before Reform cause too much damage and chaos.

Essex is one of them. I suspect breaking up the district council structure and creating unitary authorities will allow Reform more influence.

Reform and “nice person”

Total dichotomy.

Look across the Atlantic - listen to Trump and watch his actions.

That is what you would get with a Reform government.

growstuff

Whitewavemark2

The Labour government is going to disband many of the county councils, and put unitary councils in their place.

Let’s hope that is before Reform cause too much damage and chaos.

Essex is one of them. I suspect breaking up the district council structure and creating unitary authorities will allow Reform more influence.

Potentially, but maybe not if their incompetence is obvious before all this happens.

Although🙄

I think new or newish posters aren't aware that we can all look up GN posters' posting history in the search slot, Teazel2. also by topic - who said what on say the riots last year for example. Hence Growstuffs post.

Its not a nasty thing to do, for example we can also find out perhaps if someone is having a bad time in their lives, and perhaps understand what seems rather "off".

Wyllow3

I think new or newish posters aren't aware that we can all look up GN posters' posting history in the search slot, Teazel2. also by topic - who said what on say the riots last year for example. Hence Growstuffs post.

Its not a nasty thing to do, for example we can also find out perhaps if someone is having a bad time in their lives, and perhaps understand what seems rather "off".

I am sure its not a nasty thing to do. We may disagree politically with some posters, but we all want what is best for this country although have different views on what is best, and also want what is best for each other. We can be kind and compassionate and still support Reform! (Or Labour!)

growstuff

Teazel I think we all know about bots. For that matter, how do you know who's posting negative comments about Keir Starmer or Angela Rayner? Do you think they're all bots or trouble makers?

That's why I looked up the posting history of some of the posters who had posted vile racist abuse addressed at Yusuf. In the past, they've supported Tommy Robinson or posts made by Rupert Lowe and there are other signs they are genuine Reform supporters. There are thousands of them! If they're not typical Reform voters, why do all the genuinely nice Reform voters remain so quiet?

I dont know who typical Reform voters are, just family and friends who vote Reform. None of us support Tommy Robinson! The people you quote may be genuine Reform supporters, I am sure there are equal numbers who post vile, racist comments who support Tory and Labour.

Whitewavemark2

The Labour government is going to disband many of the county councils, and put unitary councils in their place.

Let’s hope that is before Reform cause too much damage and chaos.

Is that a good idea, will it work?
Will it be more cost-effective and/or could local services be impacted?

Whitewavemark2

growstuff

Whitewavemark2

The Labour government is going to disband many of the county councils, and put unitary councils in their place.

Let’s hope that is before Reform cause too much damage and chaos.

Essex is one of them. I suspect breaking up the district council structure and creating unitary authorities will allow Reform more influence.

Potentially, but maybe not if their incompetence is obvious before all this happens.

Although🙄

I'm not holding my breath! It's a mystery to me why some people vote as they do despite the evidence.

Allira

Whitewavemark2

The Labour government is going to disband many of the county councils, and put unitary councils in their place.

Let’s hope that is before Reform cause too much damage and chaos.

Is that a good idea, will it work?
Will it be more cost-effective and/or could local services be impacted?

I think it's a totally cr*p idea, but I don't have any control over the reorganisation and who knows if I'm right?

The idea is that Essex County Council is too big and the district councils too small to be efficient. Effectively, we have three layers of government because we also have town or parish councils and there is some overlap. Essex County Council is being reorganised, so that everybody has just one council, but it will be bigger than the current district councils and have more control.

My district has had an independent council for two elections and I'm quite happy with that. I feel there is some local control. We're actually like a little island on the edge of Essex. We're being lumped together with two other district councils which have very different interests, so I think the local control will be lost.

I have no idea whether it will be more cost-effective. Initially, I expect reorganisation will cost money and there will be numerous hiccoughs as new structures are introduced. Undoubtedly, there will be redundancies and there will be a cost involved with severance packages. The independent group which currently runs our council will be in a minority. Currently, the rest are Conservative, but it wouldn't surprise me if Reform gains seats, so I'm not looking forward to it.

Reorganisation inevitably costs money, even if the claim is thst it's in the interests of efficiency.

Often smaller town councils will have a majority of Independent Councillors whose interests are those of local people, rather than party politics.

Teazel If there are equal numbers of Labour and Conservative voters who post vile, racist comments, I certainly haven't seen many of them.

I don't personally know anybody who would even consider voting for Reform, so I really don't know what they believe. I can only go with what Farage & Co say and what their supporters say. I'm an outsider to Reform internal politics. I haven't a clue what they really believe because their published policies are incoherent.

Allira

Reorganisation inevitably costs money, even if the claim is thst it's in the interests of efficiency.

Often smaller town councils will have a majority of Independent Councillors whose interests are those of local people, rather than party politics.

That's my concern. The independent councillors are probably conservative (with a small 'c') but I can live with that.

Reform are a party ( are they one?) who emphasise difference. They like to fan the flames of fear in people.

As far as I know they are still a private company...not a political party.

A new Chairman of Reform today, Dr David Bull ( I think that’s the name) .