NHS is refusing treatment to children attending private schools.

Yes absolutely and the sooner they access the treatment the better.

They just need the school to carry out the initial assessment.

Then, as the letter says they will be able to access treatment just like any other child.

Everybody else has to have an initial assessment carried out by the school. Why not them?

Lathyrus3

Everybody else has to have an initial assessment carried out by the school. Why not them?

I would have presumed that a physical problem like hypermobility would have been assessed by GP and diagnosed by a NHS Consultant.

Well, I know that is the process involved. The referral onwards would be from the Consultant.

I'm surprised that the parent doesn't have a sufficiently good relationship with the child's prep school to keep this out of the papers. They usually work in partnership.
I'm not saying it should be kept quiet if something is really amiss, but it is fake news to present it in such a negative way.

I have read that children who receive private education have been not allowed to access state education while in hospital. Sorry to say that this does not surprise me at all. Labour is and always has been based on the 'Politics of Envy'. Labour = Get someone else to pay!!!

I have reread what is available.

As far as I can gather the mother is nit requesting medical intervention via the GP. She is requesting provision to meet the child’s educational needs. Presumably in school. For this to happen an assessment of educational need has to take place. Otherwise how do you know what to provide.

The responsibility for carrying this out rests with the school.

The letter from the Health authority says that once this has been carried out and the child has an EHCP then treatment is available in the same way that it is for any other child.

There’s really no need for all this. Just get the assessment done.

Some special schools are private. The local authority pays for many children in such establishments.

love0c

I have read that children who receive private education have been not allowed to access state education while in hospital. Sorry to say that this does not surprise me at all. Labour is and always has been based on the 'Politics of Envy'. Labour = Get someone else to pay!!!

That was a Tory policy,😄😄

Allira

It is splitting hairs.

SEND is funded by the NHS
Regardless of the fact that these parents pay for private education for their child, they will still be paying NI and taxes which fund the NHS which is denying treatment to their child.

Allira according to my daughter who works in a SEND school it’s funded by the local authority?
Yes, I’d like more information on the OP’s statement, so questions do need to be asked.

Lathyrus3

I have reread what is available.

As far as I can gather the mother is nit requesting medical intervention via the GP. She is requesting provision to meet the child’s educational needs. Presumably in school. For this to happen an assessment of educational need has to take place. Otherwise how do you know what to provide.

The responsibility for carrying this out rests with the school.

The letter from the Health authority says that once this has been carried out and the child has an EHCP then treatment is available in the same way that it is for any other child.

There’s really no need for all this. Just get the assessment done.

Yep!

Lathyrus3

I have reread what is available.

As far as I can gather the mother is nit requesting medical intervention via the GP. She is requesting provision to meet the child’s educational needs. Presumably in school. For this to happen an assessment of educational need has to take place. Otherwise how do you know what to provide.

The responsibility for carrying this out rests with the school.

The letter from the Health authority says that once this has been carried out and the child has an EHCP then treatment is available in the same way that it is for any other child.

There’s really no need for all this. Just get the assessment done.

Absolutely. And we wonder why people complain about the Daily Mail when it's feeding the public such rubbish by either not investigating fully, or by deliberately missing out information. Is it another case of mother contacts DM in order to make something happen?

I asked Lady Google, 'Has the Daily Mail ever had to retract a story?'
The reply was,
'Yes the Daily Mail has been requrired to retract or correct stories in the past..'
Now, I am sure other papers have had to deal with this issue, but that was not the whole statement.
Here is the rest of the statement from Google,
'...and has faced legal action for false or misleading reporting.'

I have also reread what is available, and a bit more.
Interestingly, IF this is the prep school hinted at in the papers, then categorically, No pupils in the school have an education, health and care plan. This is stated in the recent inspection.
It is not unusual for an independent school not to have children with EHCPs for a variety of reasons. This doesn't mean that a school
hasn't identified a number of pupils as requiring support for special educational needs and/or disabilities.

I am inclined to agree that there might be a parent at odds with the school/hospital here, and that contacting the DM was her way of complaining.

escaped

I'm surprised that the parent doesn't have a sufficiently good relationship with the child's prep school to keep this out of the papers. They usually work in partnership.
I'm not saying it should be kept quiet if something is really amiss, but it is fake news to present it in such a negative way.

Probably been quietly asked to find an alternative school!

😃

They no st probably have been. I was told categorically by a head one of mine couldn’t attend

I sent a few packing in my time!
Put very politely, the school could not respond to the needs of the child. It's a hard call, but no one would think very highly of you taking £thousands off parents each year and not being able to meet the required levels of support. It's better to be upfront.

PS..and a struggling, unhappy child is not what anyone wants.

So it’s clear this child, along with other privately educated children, do not meet the criteria for local authority funded treatment or assessments. This is as it should be, as unfair as it sounds, local authorities, who receive and distribute school funding in most cases, would not receive funding for private school children.

It makes sense, though sounds unfair.

escaped

I have also reread what is available, and a bit more.
Interestingly, IF this is the prep school hinted at in the papers, then categorically, No pupils in the school have an education, health and care plan. This is stated in the recent inspection.
It is not unusual for an independent school not to have children with EHCPs for a variety of reasons. This doesn't mean that a school
hasn't identified a number of pupils as requiring support for special educational needs and/or disabilities.

I am inclined to agree that there might be a parent at odds with the school/hospital here, and that contacting the DM was her way of complaining.

Sure, the mother was trying to force their hand with "bad publicity". Thank you for your clarity escaped.

Cossy

So it’s clear this child, along with other privately educated children, do not meet the criteria for local authority funded treatment or assessments. This is as it should be, as unfair as it sounds, local authorities, who receive and distribute school funding in most cases, would not receive funding for private school children.

It makes sense, though sounds unfair.

Exactly. One of our grandchildren is very bright but ADHT with reading difficulties. At an excellent private school but all the assessments had to be done privately and paid for, same for specialist help. Totally fair.

Well as far as I can tell, this child has physical problems which are not being addressed by the NHS.

That is a failure on the part of the NHS.

I would say hypermobility is a physical need which impacts on education, ie handwriting. A former pupil was assessed with this condition some years ago, and advice and support was forthcoming immediately,from whence I cannot say. I heard this story on television news this morning, no idea which channel and it reminded me of the difficulties this child experienced.
Whether children attend a state school or a private one, the parents still contribute via their taxes to the state, paying twice for education and save the state money by not occupying a state school place.
This comment about the Daily Mail:
this wholesale refusal to accept anything the DM publishes on any subject is quite disturbing, It is a classic far left/right way of dealing with uncomfortable facts.
...is a tactic used by the chairman of a discussion group I attend who uses this attack any time he is presented with uncomfortable facts, sneering at the speaker in an attempt to put him on the defensive. It is very tiresome, and also very childish.

You do misread things eazybee. You may know someone who uses this comment in a negative way, but to me it means that we should always be cautious about information, where-ever it comes from, but never ever reject the potential truth of something, just because we object to the politics of the source until it has been checked, nor accept the truth of anything published in a publication whose politics we believe in, unitl it too has been verified

My DiL suffers from hypermobility, and I have a friend who used to deal with people with the severe form of this disability, where they dislocate joints on almost a weekly basis and can be wheelchair bound as a result. My DiL has suffered from arthritis since she was in her early 40s as a result of having this disability.

As a point of accuracy this article was in today’s Mail on Sunday, not the Daily Mail although of course they are sister newspapers.

There you are, there are two Mail papers for some of you to get in a froth about !
Meanwhile the award-winning Daily Mail is still the top selling newspaper in this country.
Obviously though all of us who read it are fully signed up far-right racists !