Terrible air crash in India/UK

Look at the transport safety figures
10 billion km traveled safely in the air
Meanwhile 5 deaths per day average on UK roads among so many nations
Largely unreported by the media

Here he is actually telling his story in his own words.
news.sky.com/story/india-plane-crash-gatwick-latest-ahmedabad-airport-live-sky-news-13382494?postid=9723518#liveblog-body

Read online he said his brother wasn't next to him but seated somewhere else. Also that he saw a gap in the bodywork, undid his seat belt and used his foot to widen the gap and climb out. Said he saw people dead including an air hostess and others dying infront of him. Was on one of the news online sites so don't know if it's true or not.
I'm wondering if it was sabotage and someone disconnected some of the wiring that moved the fins and landing gear. If it was it's a terrible thing to do. Or could be wiring was faulty anyway or came apart.

I read somewhere that this aircraft was in bad repair. None of the call bells worked that air-conditioning was broken and in-flight screens broken and multiple other faults. British aircraft are in a lot better condition and serviced regularly. Accidents happen but if this is the case Air India wants closing down.

My advice and I give it really not wanting to but dont listen to a lot that the BBC has to say these days , mind you who can you trust on the news these days. Some of them make it up as they go along I do believe just to make it sound as if they have a scoop as they used to call it. This poor guy , yes he survived but he lost his brother and he must be just thinking "why me", when all those other poor souls lost their lives so tragically. Prayers for all.

David49

Casdon

According to this report safety concerns have been raised about the structural safety of the Boeing Dreamliner due to manufacturing shortcuts.
news.sky.com/story/india-plane-crash-gatwick-latest-ahmedabad-airport-live-sky-news-13382494?postid=9719471#liveblog-body
It will be dreadful if that turns out to be the reason for the crash.

The expert speculation in this case is that the pilot was not using the proper take off flap settings and the airliner just had not got enough lift to stay in the air.
It also took off from part way down the runway and might have not achieved full speed, not having enough runway to abort take off, had to continue with a low speed take off.
On day one of your pilot training you’re told use all the runway, tarmac behind you is useless, pilots do get complacent.

Speculation is not helpful, even from experts on social media.

I see that the black box has been recovered.

It's dreadful Buebelle.

Has the black box been found?
We haven't seen the latest news.

I am so so ashamed of the human race
Social media is full on disbelieving the survivor was on the plane, they are accusing him of being on the ground and somehow detonating it
That poor poor man not only has the awful fallout of being the only survivor but losing his brother to the tragedy but now has this to contend with
Horrible horrible people

A terrible tragedy. I heard Simon Caldwell talking about it saying that air travel is statistically by far the safest way to travel and around 500 Indians are killed on their roads every day.

I’ve seen some ignorant and discriminatory comments on social media. It’s so sad that when a tragedy like this happens we cannot all express our horror and offer sincere condolences to all affected. May all who perished be at peace, God bless your souls eternally

That poor man - he was evidently asking rescuers to go into the wreck and get his brother. They were travelling together. His feelings now are unimaginable.

Daddima

And, predictably, the internet sleuths are appearing on TikTok, with ‘no way was he on that plane’. His ‘sparkling white’ T-shirt gets a mention quite often.

Still, at least Kate and Gerry McCann and Meghan Markle/ Sussex’s baby bump are getting a day off.

From the aircraft diagram, he was seated next to the emergency exit so very likely was thrown from the plane on impact. A remarkable escape but sadly his brother sitting next to him died.

And, predictably, the internet sleuths are appearing on TikTok, with ‘no way was he on that plane’. His ‘sparkling white’ T-shirt gets a mention quite often.

Still, at least Kate and Gerry McCann and Meghan Markle/ Sussex’s baby bump are getting a day off.

Casdon

According to this report safety concerns have been raised about the structural safety of the Boeing Dreamliner due to manufacturing shortcuts.
news.sky.com/story/india-plane-crash-gatwick-latest-ahmedabad-airport-live-sky-news-13382494?postid=9719471#liveblog-body
It will be dreadful if that turns out to be the reason for the crash.

The expert speculation in this case is that the pilot was not using the proper take off flap settings and the airliner just had not got enough lift to stay in the air.
It also took off from part way down the runway and might have not achieved full speed, not having enough runway to abort take off, had to continue with a low speed take off.
On day one of your pilot training you’re told use all the runway, tarmac behind you is useless, pilots do get complacent.

I flew Air India from Singapore to Australia no complaints. Definitely wouldn't want to go on Aeroflot, I had a friend whose husband worked for Shell and thd family got posted to Moscow for a while, when they flew back to England it was often on Aeroflot, awful apparently, she always swore never again! and I think that airline doesn't have a good safety record.

Air India has a good safety record

At my exercise class yesterday afternoon, one lady said she was an air hostess for BA many years ago. They were often asked to work on other airlines but there were 2 that she refused to go on and they were Aeroflot and Air India.

One BBC reporter was asking the cousin of the sole survivor to tell us how he felt about his miraculous escape. The poor man had to remind him twice that although one of his cousins had survived, another was unaccounted for, and that the family was very distressed.

And in their eagerness to report on the tragedy this morning, a Radio 2 report stated that the plane was heading for Birmingham, which must surely have alarmed people with relatives and friends flying there today.

I immediately thought of you grandmattie. Thank goodness you were quickly reassured that it was not his flight. Such a terrible thing.

This is a dreadful tragedy, beyond words.The BBC used to be respected worldwide. Not any more, sadly. Whoever is the person in charge there needs to have a good hard look at themselves.

A reporter on Sky News had gone to the hospital to speak to the only survivor and said he was asked by the police to leave. I can’t believe how intrusive that was or why they were pleased to get a news report from him.

I couldn’t understand why the BBC even sent a newsreader to Gatwick airport for the 6pm news. I realise that the plane had been due to land around then, but of course it didn’t, so why report from there?
Surely they weren’t hoping to speak to some distressed relatives who hadn’t heard about the crash?

WhiteSwan63

So terrible my heart goes out to the families both from the plane and on the ground. But OMG the man who walked out of the wreckage what a survival story.

Isn’t it!
Not just alive but walking out with just scratches.He will be in a bad way trauma wise tho for a long time.
What a terrible accident with so many deaths.☹️

Whitewavemark2

What is the matter with the BBC interviewers😡😡.

Just watched a young man who had probably lost relatives being interviewed and the questions were ridiculous and fatuous.

They often are aren’t they? On the lines of ‘how do you feel’?

So terrible my heart goes out to the families both from the plane and on the ground. But OMG the man who walked out of the wreckage what a survival story.