Israel attack on Iran

MayBee70

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

Parsley3

www.972mag.com/netanyahu-hamas-october-7-adam-raz/
Well this was a real eye opener for me. Netanyahu supported Hamas for years! I needed to look at the truth of this but there are so many links to prove the facts that I have chosen one at random to post. It is the people of Israel who have paid the price for this self serving policy as WWM2 shows in her Wikipedia extract.

As far as I am concerned Netanyahu is an evil number 1 b…….d

Well, you would think that wouldn’t you? As all of your comments are pro Palestine.

That’s unfair.

A lot more than unfair. Totally wrong and slander.

Whitewavemark2 it is not a matter of getting a grip as you put it.

Warfare is totally different now as opposed to WWII.

Professional service men and women are highly trained in multiple areas.

GrannyGravy13

growstuff I can tell you straight from the (officer’s) horses mouth they dread that more than the current situation.

Our fathers’ managed the news recruits whilst fighting a war.

They need to get a grip!

growstuff I can tell you straight from the (officer’s) horses mouth they dread that more than the current situation.

ronib

One of my sons rang me to say that he wouldn’t be called up as he was in a protected profession - such is the mood of the country. (Uk). It’s very disappointing to hear the younger generation even thinking like this.

I'd love to know what the British armed forces would do with millions of untrained, reluctant fighters.

David49

growstuff

I don't believe for one moment that Netanyahu "trusted" Hamas - he thought he could outwit them.

Gaza doesn’t feel so good trusting them

If Netanyahu trusted Hamas, he was an idiot - and I don't believe for one moment that Netanyahu is an idiot. He's probably one of the most wily political operators around. Netanyahu used Hamas to divide Palestinians. Both are against Fatah, who are in favour of a two-state solution. Netanyahu thought that by keeping Hamas on his side, he could isolate Fatah.

One of my sons rang me to say that he wouldn’t be called up as he was in a protected profession - such is the mood of the country. (Uk). It’s very disappointing to hear the younger generation even thinking like this.

Haven't seen a single post saying that Hamas are the good guys.

Interesting, growstuff, Netanyau had the impressive Israeli intelligence service at his disposal.

valdavi

AGAA4

I agree Whitewave.

Trump is now wavering saying I may do it or I may not in reference to helping Israel.
He has proved himself to be a weak leader. A strong leader would make an informed decision not faff around.

To be a strong leader you need to have an overview of the issues and take expert advice on the complexities. Trump can't do the first because he's thick & won't do the second because he thinks he's too clever to need advice.

Trump thick? I doubt it. He saw off a slate of Republican candidates before his first election to President, has taken effective control of the Republican Party and has a number of foreign Prime Ministers dancing attendance. I don't like him and I doubt his policies will prove effective but he is not to be underestimated.

growstuff

I don't believe for one moment that Netanyahu "trusted" Hamas - he thought he could outwit them.

Gaza doesn’t feel so good trusting them

I don't believe for one moment that Netanyahu "trusted" Hamas - he thought he could outwit them.

Netanyahu enabled them. He is responsible.

David49

Whitewavemark2

valdavi

Israel have been supporting Muslim Brotherhood which morphed into Hamas, since the 1970's in order that Palestine didn't become a one party state under the PLO which Israel deemed might well negotiate a two- state solution backed internationally.
There was a difficult situation when Hamas were elected & Hamas paramilitaries were targeting Fatah supporters in Gaza & driving them out, but Israel's support helped Hamas win the election in the first place.

Yes

But then Hamas turned the tables and betrayed the trust that Netenyahu had in them, indoctrinating the whole population to destroy Israel.
Now Hamas has betrayed Gaza bringing death and destruction on them, such nice people.

Do you honestly think that Netanyahu didn't know what was going on in Gaza?

Whitewavemark2

valdavi

Israel have been supporting Muslim Brotherhood which morphed into Hamas, since the 1970's in order that Palestine didn't become a one party state under the PLO which Israel deemed might well negotiate a two- state solution backed internationally.
There was a difficult situation when Hamas were elected & Hamas paramilitaries were targeting Fatah supporters in Gaza & driving them out, but Israel's support helped Hamas win the election in the first place.

Yes

But then Hamas turned the tables and betrayed the trust that Netenyahu had in them, indoctrinating the whole population to destroy Israel.
Now Hamas has betrayed Gaza bringing death and destruction on them, such nice people.

The isolationists amongst Trump's supporters are trying to get a bill through to stop him entering a war with Iran without the approval of congress.
This has split his supporters. The more hawkish want to help Israel and join the war.
Trump has to make decision one way or the other.

Exactly.

And now he has drawn them into a war.

Maremia

I wonder how many folk in Israel are aware of this? And then October '23 happened. That would make it feel even more unbearable.

Well The Times of Israel has a big article on it. I’ve quoted a bit. I would imagine if you were an ordinary Israeli you would feel very uncertain as to the future with Netanyahu.

It will depend on which White House faction prevails.

I wonder how many folk in Israel are aware of this? And then October '23 happened. That would make it feel even more unbearable.

I hope Trump keeps the US out of this as Iran have threatened to attack US bases. If US personnel are killed then the situation becomes more serious and Trump would have to respond.
America first he said and no more involvement in other people's wars.

valdavi

Israel have been supporting Muslim Brotherhood which morphed into Hamas, since the 1970's in order that Palestine didn't become a one party state under the PLO which Israel deemed might well negotiate a two- state solution backed internationally.
There was a difficult situation when Hamas were elected & Hamas paramilitaries were targeting Fatah supporters in Gaza & driving them out, but Israel's support helped Hamas win the election in the first place.

Yes

Oreo

AGAA4

Netanyahu's support of Hamas meant they received huge amounts of money. It all blew up in Ocober23 when so many Israelis lost their lives.

Supporting hamas meant splitting up different sides and was a gamble.How would you have fared I wonder being tasked with opposing Palestinian factions vying for power?

But that isn’t correct. It is thought (and Netanyahu certainly thought) that the PA would have been the unifying force and the two entities would have operated as one unit. They were in line to win an election.

They would have been stronger with a United government.

'putting'...maybe I am so used to trying Putin.

But wait, not everyone in the White House appears to be gung ho. That Maga Mamma, Marjory Taylor Green is opposing any thought of military intervention/interference by the Trump administration as it wouldn't be 'puting America first.' And that's a first for her.