Israel attack on Iran

TRIP podcast discusses that possible outcome too Maremia. It is a sobering thought.

G7 summit in Canada happening soon. Bound to be on the agenda.
One of the online papers gave a summary of what might happen next.
One of the 'versions' was that the new replacement leaders in Iran might be even more hardline than those killed by Israel.
Another suggested that Israel's attack, just when 'nuclear deal' was about to be achieved, could convince Iran they now must have nuclear weapons to survive.

UK is sending RAF planes to the middle east. Starmer hasn't said what they're doing there but I would think they will be in support of Israel.

AGAA4

Iran have warned the US UK and France that if they give aid to Israel they will attack their bases and ships.

The UK is staying out of this and France too I think. Not sure if the US are helping to shoot down missiles from Iran.

Iran is over playing their military power, they may have an estimated 2000 missiles that can reach Israel, if they are sending 200 at a time, most of which get shot down they won’t last long. In the meantime Israel seems to be attacking at will because Iranian defenses are so poor, if they do attack the US the retaliation will be massive.

Iran claims to only have a peaceful nuclear programme, so why are they hiding it deep inside a mountain, why are they denying inspectors access. Israel should get on with it and stop Irans nuclear threat with US help if needed.

How rude.

Anniebach

ronib I do like facts, thank you

Seems to me you like some facts, those you want to hear- and totally blank the rest.

Just jumping in to thanks CariadAgain and Whitewavemark for their fact finding suggestions. Heading over to see if the library has 'The Lemon Tree', and will also try to catch the Rest is Politics.

Iran have warned the US UK and France that if they give aid to Israel they will attack their bases and ships.

The UK is staying out of this and France too I think. Not sure if the US are helping to shoot down missiles from Iran.

Mamie

I would thoroughly recommend the latest episode of The Rest is Politics on the Iran Israel events.

Thanks for this mamie I didn’t realise that they had done an emergency podcast. They confirmed most snd more of what I’d read and listened to.

From BBC news.

'Tehran will burn' if missiles do not stop - Israeli defence minister
published at 11:36
11:36
Israel's defence minister, Israel Katz, has said "Tehran will burn" if Iran continues to launch missiles.

In comments made during an assessment with military officials, Katz says: "The Iranian dictator is turning the citizens of Iran into hostages and creating a reality in which they, especially the residents of Tehran, will pay a heavy price for the criminal attack on Israeli civilians."

I think I have entered the world of 1984.

AGAA4

Oreo

Anyone got any confidence in Trump’s deals? Iran’s leaders would run rings round him and his entourage just as Putin does.
It was the right time to strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities.

No confidence at all in Trump's deals. He has proved himself ineffective before.
Not sure about the timing of the attack on Iran.

I think that, in his past, business, life, Trump's 'deals' have always succeeded because he had money and the threat of ruinous litigation behind him.

In government, he has nothing as powerful. So he can't produce the simplistic solutions to international problems that his simplistic voters believed that he could.

Whitewavemark2

Iran is undoubtedly an illegitimate authoritarian regime and there is always the possibility that the regime will fall - but only almost certainly to the military, and then what?

Yes a military takeover, likely to be much easier to deal with than the fundamentalist regime we have now. Most other nations on the region are military dictatorships. We have seen with Egypt that it’s impossible to control extremists with a civilian government

Oreo

Anyone got any confidence in Trump’s deals? Iran’s leaders would run rings round him and his entourage just as Putin does.
It was the right time to strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities.

No confidence at all in Trump's deals. He has proved himself ineffective before.
Not sure about the timing of the attack on Iran.

Allira

Galaxy

Indeed Alister Campbells views on how to handle international affairs, most people were calling him the lowest of the low five minutes ago.

Oh, that man whose lies caused us to go into a war?
Why does anyone even ask his opinion?

Have you listened to it Allira?
Do you feel the same about Rory Stewart?

Anyone got any confidence in Trump’s deals? Iran’s leaders would run rings round him and his entourage just as Putin does.
It was the right time to strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Galaxy

Indeed Alister Campbells views on how to handle international affairs, most people were calling him the lowest of the low five minutes ago.

Until what he comes out with chimes with their own opinions of course.

Galaxy

Indeed Alister Campbells views on how to handle international affairs, most people were calling him the lowest of the low five minutes ago.

Oh, that man whose lies caused us to go into a war?
Why does anyone even ask his opinion?

Thank you Whitewave, your opinion not a fact, this is honest

Indeed Alister Campbells views on how to handle international affairs, most people were calling him the lowest of the low five minutes ago.

I would thoroughly recommend the latest episode of The Rest is Politics on the Iran Israel events.

ronib

Well let’s give Trump points for trying?? Or not…. It’s not the equivalent of icing a cake is it? Pretty impossible task?

If you’d been watching throughout the years you would understand that the task is not impossible.

Look at the Obama deal!

That had been sealed to everyone’s satisfaction.

Trump got in and trashed it.

You could almost say that he is responsible for what is happening now.

I wonder how Israelis feel about the Netanyahu government leading them into war with Iran.
Already people have been killed and many injured by the attack by Iran.

Like others I wonder why now when Israeli intelligence would have been aware for a while that Iran was building a nuclear weapon.

Well let’s give Trump points for trying?? Or not…. It’s not the equivalent of icing a cake is it? Pretty impossible task?

I don’t remember that. If I said that Trump was involved it would have been because I had not yet given the matter very much thought, but I’ve had 24 hours to think things through since then, and I am now of the opinion that Trump (contrary to what he may be claiming) did not know of Netanyahu’s plan.

Netanyahu has undoubtedly calculated that he can get away with this sort of behaviour because he knows that Trump will never follow it through. He had watched Putin and has learned this lesson.

Trump has failed to achieve a single deal that he said would be so easy.

In Ukraine, Gaza and now Iran.

ronib

My understanding is that Trump had given Iran a 60 day window and on the 61st day, the attacks started. Trump’s unique bargaining hand?

And yet talks were scheduled to continue this weekend.