Trump has attacked Iran

Maremia

Sorry Cossy, and apologies to anyone who is feeling stressed about the situation, I have just read a most depressing article on Facebook, and I am sure the details will be replicated elsewhere, but, leaving aside the legality of acting without the consent of Congress etc, it would appear that the mega expensive bombing has not achieved its purpose.
GNs have posted and explained upthread about the lack of nuclear 'fall out' after the bombing.
In this article 'observers' are quoted as having witnessed multiple tranportations of what is most likely to be the essential nuclear resources.
Putin is hosting a visit from Iranian officials, and has said that 'States' will be queuing up to offer help to Iran to continue and complete the programme.
Trump is begging Xi to help keep clear the Straits of Hormuz. Meanwhile China has sent flights of mystery planes to Iran.
So, it is neither resolved nor over yet.

Don’t be sorry, & thanks for any updates.

IMO, it’s all due to power mad, power hungry, dictators, Trump, Netanyahu, Putin - all crazy leaders, wanting more and more power, all taunting each other and playing some insane game which will have knock on effects on us all.

No, I don’t support Hamas, neither do I support their kidnapping and mutilating and murders, but I also don’t support wily-nily bombing and children and babies starving. It’s all so hideous and tragic!

JenniferEccles

Iran apparently has a number of secretly placed nuclear enrichment facilities, buried far underground in mountainous areas, well protected from attack.
The US has ‘bunker busting bombs’ which it’s said are powerful enough to destroy the facility.

Trump has said the mission was successful.

I can understand the fear and concerns expressed on here, but isn’t this possibly good news?

Does the world really want a country like Iran to be permitted to continue building its nuclear arsenal?

It may be that Iran was working towards this. However, I'm sure you have seen by now what Iran has responded with. Have you also seen what Putin has responded with?

You see, either way, this is not going to end well. And ...really, trump has just hastened it "not ending well", and that includes a whole laundry list from Iran of what it promises to do, now incorporating with Putin has come forth to share from his point of view.

I am a dual US/UK citizen. I was born and raised in California. My family is there. My son, my granddaughter, and more family.

This is not going to be good for the US. And I am sure many can quickly surmise that is not going to be good for the UK, either.

So really, poking someone with a stick, such as trump has done, really wasn't needed at this exact moment and most certainly not the way he did it and not the way he is speaking and acting.

He continues to break laws and avoid consulting the actual Constitution of the United States. For some reason, he is not held to account for such things.

Regardless, I hope with all my heart, that people stay safe.I would and have suggested to my family to stay away from very crowded places if they can, such as sport stadiums, concerts and other large gatherings. I do believe we are about to see something we've not really seen in America for a very long time.

Iran has been "cruising for a bruising" for a long time and by a lot of people: a thorn in the side of Israel for a long time.
Trump has gone up in my approval, or learning the job better. Decisive action was need to thwart Iran's support for terrorist .groups.

I'm the mother two two half Persian daughters with family in Iran. We get news from the ground daily. We are hopeful things will be ok. That's all I am saying

Claremont

I also posted a video of him saying he wanted to attack Palestinians VERY HARD, in 97!

Not forgetting Smotrich, member of Israeli government, who said he wanted to cleanse Gaza of all Palestinians.

Kissngate, your remark about Trump's son-in-law was surprising.

I also posted a video of him saying he wanted to attack Palestinians VERY HARD, in 97!

Anniebach

Quote Maremia Mon 23-Jun-25 08:31:20
That 'the majority of the people support his stance' does not negate Claremont's opinion that Netanyahu has been wanting to do this for decades. There is plenty of videod evidence to support Claremont's assertion.

An opinion is not an assertion

There is plenty of evidence of him clearly saying so for over 20 years- much of it I have shared on here. So this is not an 'opinion', but clear 'fact'.

www.cnbctv18.com/world/for-3-decades-israeli-pm-netanyahu-has-claimed-iran-months-away-from-nuclear-weapons-19622919.htm
As you say, there is plenty of proof Maremia. This very morning I heard clips on the radio of Netanyahu making claims about Iranian nuclear capacity going back to 1996. He has fulfilled his desire to attack Iran so what will he set his sights on next?

Trump has played a blinder.

Troops are leaving the Iranian forces in droves and joining the opposition., which is what the great majority of Iranian people want. The opposition have a leader already in place. The people want old Iran (Persia) back and an end to suppression, most of the leaders of `the regime` have been wiped out overnight

Jordan and Quatar have launched fighter jets to help wipe out the Iranian oppressors

Tousi.tv
His father is Iranian and in Iran now. Tousi was born in Iran. He is very thankful for the Israeli action

It really does seem as though peace will come to the middle east. Hezbollah have co-ordinated with Israel and will not be helping the Iranian regime

An'assertion' is an 'opinion' with facts. The facts are that decades of videod evidence may be viewed by, anyone one here wishing to check it out and see for themselves, of Netanyahu claiming Iran is near completion of a bomb.
Pity that Trump has taken it to be true.

Sorry Cossy, and apologies to anyone who is feeling stressed about the situation, I have just read a most depressing article on Facebook, and I am sure the details will be replicated elsewhere, but, leaving aside the legality of acting without the consent of Congress etc, it would appear that the mega expensive bombing has not achieved its purpose.
GNs have posted and explained upthread about the lack of nuclear 'fall out' after the bombing.
In this article 'observers' are quoted as having witnessed multiple tranportations of what is most likely to be the essential nuclear resources.
Putin is hosting a visit from Iranian officials, and has said that 'States' will be queuing up to offer help to Iran to continue and complete the programme.
Trump is begging Xi to help keep clear the Straits of Hormuz. Meanwhile China has sent flights of mystery planes to Iran.
So, it is neither resolved nor over yet.

Anniebach

Quote Maremia Mon 23-Jun-25 08:31:20
That 'the majority of the people support his stance' does not negate Claremont's opinion that Netanyahu has been wanting to do this for decades. There is plenty of videod evidence to support Claremont's assertion.

An opinion is not an assertion

Indeed it is not.

What is your opinion or take on these recent events?

Whitewavemark2 I think Rory Stewart is knowledgeable, my opinion of Alistair Campbell is best kept to myself.

Yes, WWM2, best practice is to try a variety of sources. It helps to avoid 'echo chamber' syndrome.
Some of the sources offered by GNs are also very enlightening.

'You say op-in-ion,
I say ass-er-tion.
Let's call the whole thing off.'

Seriously Annieb, that's what you took from my post?

GrannyGravy13

I wonder who is this PM’s Alistair Campbell ?

Alistair Campbell of the infamous (fictitious) Iraq WMD dossier.

Alastair Campbell who along with Rory Stewart seem to be the current favourite go to encyclopaedia for all things political…

I go to all the information I can glean on politics including what are clearly your bete noir - Stewart and Campbell.

Who do you find the best source of information?

Claremont

One thing is clear, Rory Stewart knew a lot more about Iraq and Afghanistan and the whole Middle East, than Cameron.

In the meantime, it seems Iran will not be stupid enough to retaliate with arms- but with economic measures which will be massively damaging to Western economies already struggling for all sorts of other reason. The UK mainly because of Brexit.

Iran has started turning tankers back at the Strait of Hormuz.
Fuel prices are expected to rocket (we have ordered our winter fuel today-there is going to be a mad panic buying).

Trying not to be, but I feel afraid. Personally and in a bigger way.

Putin must be delighted at the prospect of rising oil prices.

Claremont I said upthread, it’s time for the U.K. to use its own oil resources, Milliband needs to give his head a wobble.

One thing is clear, Rory Stewart knew a lot more about Iraq and Afghanistan and the whole Middle East, than Cameron.

In the meantime, it seems Iran will not be stupid enough to retaliate with arms- but with economic measures which will be massively damaging to Western economies already struggling for all sorts of other reason. The UK mainly because of Brexit.

Iran has started turning tankers back at the Strait of Hormuz.
Fuel prices are expected to rocket (we have ordered our winter fuel today-there is going to be a mad panic buying).

I wonder who is this PM’s Alistair Campbell ?

Alistair Campbell of the infamous (fictitious) Iraq WMD dossier.

Alastair Campbell who along with Rory Stewart seem to be the current favourite go to encyclopaedia for all things political…

fancythat

The Uk is in a weak military position.

Military personel have been saying it for a decade or more.

That is because of the constant cuts during austerity.

Hopefully they will now be gradually built up. Quite a lot of funding is winging their way.

'one cannot'

I won't print here what Cameron said to Stewart in Kabul, in 2009, when Stewart warned that what they were doing in Afghanistan was making things much worse, and not better, with a great loss of life on both sides. It shook me to the core.

I'll just print this little bit 'David has decided' one of his aides explained, when met him later 'that one caot criticise a war when there are troops on the ground' Stewart asked if that applied to Irak too. Same answer. P 24 of this book.