Trump has attacked Iran

AGAA4

Starmer has warned of escalation in the middle east and beyond by the US action.

Jonathan Reynolds on LK today said that while the UK doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons Starmer would have gone about it a different way.
Clear that our government weren't fully in favour of the bombings.

The old ‘we would have gone about it a different way’ 😄
The UK like just about everyone else doesn’t want Iran to have nuclear weapons.
Iran does want them.
Talking about it won’t butter any parsnips.
Israel and the US have done us all a favour but governments while secretly being happy about it have to now use honey covered words about ‘peaceful constructive talks’ soon with Iran and ‘de-escalation’.
What will actually happen now is anyone’s guess, but if the regime leaders want to live and hold onto power then they won’t mix it with the US.
Iran isn’t the powerful country it pretended it was.

Oreo

Yes. Blair had to take a decision based on information at the time.Nobody can act in ‘retrospect’.

I, personally don’t blame Blair for Iraq because I believe he acted in good faith. I also think that he now bitterly regrets it and that we should have learned a lesson about following America. If only we were still part of a larger organisation and didn’t have to offer up our opinions on such things unilaterally.

Why was none of this debated in Congress? I am just speechless. This is not going to end well and there will be repercussions. I just hope our Prime Minister keeps us out of this and makes his own decisions. Anyone who wants war can put their families in the front line first. Ive sacrificed enough of mine.

Yes. Blair had to take a decision based on information at the time.Nobody can act in ‘retrospect’.

Starmer has warned of escalation in the middle east and beyond by the US action.

Jonathan Reynolds on LK today said that while the UK doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons Starmer would have gone about it a different way.
Clear that our government weren't fully in favour of the bombings.

You mean, like Iraq?

I assume there is much intelligence gathered by all countries that the general public dont have a clue about.

Like Blair when he was told about Weapons of Mass Destruction?

Netanyahu has been talking about imminent threat from Iran's nuclear ambitions for over 25 years.

LizzieDrip

^So how much support will Starmer have if he is asked to take the UK into this conflict? Very little I imagine and certainly not from me^

I second that Parsley3.

To date, I have largely supported Keir Starmer in most of the decisions he’s made since becoming PM - even when many have been unpopular.

I’ve done so because I believe he has the best interests of our country at heart.

To support Netanyahu and Trump by taking action in this illegal war would, IMO, be highly detrimental for the UK. Keir Starmer would not have my support to do so!

I sincerely hope this government does not put us in that position.

Lizzie
PM’s can’t pick and choose on things that involve our national security and interests.They will be advised and have to take a decision based on information and intelligence on what’s best for our country.

Whitewavemark2

fancythat

Whitewavemark2

Maremia

On possibly a different thread, a Poster said only 'reasonable' states should have nuclear weapons.
Who would be judged as 'reasonable'? Trump's USA?

And that is why we have had the UN.

Quotes from Eisenhower

“To attempt to hinder or stultify the United Nations or to deprecate its importance is to contribute to world unrest and, indeed, to incite the crises that from time to time so disturb all men”.

In a very real sense, the world no longer has a choice between force and law. If civilization is to survive, it must choose the rule of law."

But force has been chosen.

Force can and does sometimes, come before the UN and International law.
You can tell me I am wrong.

You know that you are wrong don’t you.

No I dont.
In what way?

I mean force happened.
Presumably the Un and International Law wouldnt have wanted it to happen.

Unless you know otherwise.

Whitewavemark2

Hopefully he will have to get permission from parliament, and they will refuse.

Will they tho?

Whitewavemark2

Apparently they’ve arrested a British person this week, in Cyprus, who was spying for Iran.

Thanks Whitewave.
Not surprising.

Cossy

Oreo

The US did the right thing in my view. It was a chance at the right time and they took it.
Hope for regime change and reduce any nuclear capability.

Good god! I’m horrified by your response, we have friends and family in the USA.

Iran have repeatedly stated that their nuclear facilities are not for developing weapons. Whether you believe that or not is almost irrelevant. Israel bombed them first and killed a high ranking Iranian, of course they retaliated, why Trump has to intervene (interfere) is beyond me, and this all certainly takes the heat of Israel bombing aid stations in Gaza!

What sort of world are we living in?

Trump is a madman, loose canon and frankly I find all of this very scary!

Little bit reminiscent of “weapons of mass destruction”

😱😱😱😱😱

Many of us have friends or family in the US.
They’re safe.
If Iran decide to retaliate against the US they’re fools, but in any case it would be against US’s military bases and shipping and interests, not the US itself.
No, I don’t believe that Iran doesn’t want nuclear weapons and it most certainly isn’t irrelevant.

fancythat

Whitewavemark2

Maremia

On possibly a different thread, a Poster said only 'reasonable' states should have nuclear weapons.
Who would be judged as 'reasonable'? Trump's USA?

And that is why we have had the UN.

Quotes from Eisenhower

“To attempt to hinder or stultify the United Nations or to deprecate its importance is to contribute to world unrest and, indeed, to incite the crises that from time to time so disturb all men”.

In a very real sense, the world no longer has a choice between force and law. If civilization is to survive, it must choose the rule of law."

But force has been chosen.

Force can and does sometimes, come before the UN and International law.
You can tell me I am wrong.

You know that you are wrong don’t you.

Apparently they’ve arrested a British person this week, in Cyprus, who was spying for Iran.

Thanks Claremont, I've signed petition

Whitewavemark2

Maremia

On possibly a different thread, a Poster said only 'reasonable' states should have nuclear weapons.
Who would be judged as 'reasonable'? Trump's USA?

And that is why we have had the UN.

Quotes from Eisenhower

“To attempt to hinder or stultify the United Nations or to deprecate its importance is to contribute to world unrest and, indeed, to incite the crises that from time to time so disturb all men”.

In a very real sense, the world no longer has a choice between force and law. If civilization is to survive, it must choose the rule of law."

But force has been chosen.

Force can and does sometimes, come before the UN and International law.
You can tell me I am wrong.

Just seen the video of Trump thanking God for his support and protecting USA troops.

I feel sick as never for a very long time.

WWmk2 - yes, a very pertinent question. Anyone off to Cyprus for a holiday?

Claremont

Please sign the petition asking Starmer NOT to support this war

stoptrump.org.uk/petition-trump-iran/

thank you.

Nope

Does anyone know

We have all been worried about Putin damaging any nuclear power stations in Ukraine because of radiation fall out.

So what about the Iranian nuclear power stations that USA has just apparently destroyed?

Anniebach

Quote Maremia Sun 22-Jun-25 12:00:56
nann8, I thought it was Pakistan.

I too read it was Pakistan

So did I. For helping in the recent India/Pakistan problems.

Just seen Hegseth on TV saying this is, 'Peace throught strength.'

They are not interested in peace, they are only interested in the strength part.

It is frightening rhetoric coming out of the US just now.

We need to isolate Israel and the US- because they are clearly becoming the aggressors now and like others I shall be writing to my MP too.

I am very, very disappointed in Starmer's standpoint here and may well withdraw my LP membership and further support as a result of this.

We thought things were bad but they are about to get a whole lot worse...

Claremont

Please sign the petition asking Starmer NOT to support this war

stoptrump.org.uk/petition-trump-iran/

thank you.

Thank you. I’ve signed.

Let’s all wait and see what the outcome of the emergency Cobra meeting Starmer is apparently chairing.

Just seen Starmer on the news stating he doesn’t want Iran to have nuclear weapons, but that now Trump has (allegedly) destroyed them, Starmer is stressing “de-escalation”

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

62Granny

He has been itching to start something with any nation since he come into office, why does he need to get involved, it should be left to the United Nations to sort this type of thing, that way it isn't any particular country getting involved more a joint task force.

Who is “he” Trump or Starmer.

He has been itching to start something with any nation since he come into office, why does he need to get involved, it should be left to the United Nations to sort this type of thing, that way it isn't any particular country getting involved more a joint task force.