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Trump has attacked Iran

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Bea65 Sun 22-Jun-25 02:03:09

Oh Lordy, what now …this is scary news and now what happens..

Starfire57 Wed 25-Jun-25 11:09:34

Rocknroll5me

I think Trump is making the right call. No president has surrounded himself with more advisors and he has the ear of many powerful people across the region.
We know his instincts are against war. We know he thinks it’s a waste of resources and somehow everyone has their price and it’s just a matter of doing the best deal. But Iran is a very different culture, with a very religious patriarchal leadership which as we know has reversed all freedom of women. They are fanatics. They would like to destroy Israel. America’s interests are deeply held in Israel. So Trump has to act. For Iran to have nuclear power is unthinkable. Trump is the least warmongering president there could be. But he has listened to his advisors and has tried to take out irans nuclear capability. It is more dangerous to allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons.

I agree. Obama dropped alot of bombs too, without going to Cingress and nobody batted an eye. Congress already passed acts years ago to allow a president to attack Islamic threats when necessary. Trump is within his powers here.

Oreo Wed 25-Jun-25 11:08:46

Maremia

Hamas, whom no-one supports on here, as far as it is possible to tell, was received funding from Netanyahu. THAT is worth repeating.

It’s been done to death on here, it received funding as a counter threat to Palestinian Authority and other groups.It was thought that if hamas got what they wanted and ran Gaza then they would be satisfied.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Maremia Wed 25-Jun-25 11:07:03

Wow! I agree with Oreo's post.

Maremia Wed 25-Jun-25 11:05:43

Hamas, whom no-one supports on here, as far as it is possible to tell, was received funding from Netanyahu. THAT is worth repeating.

Oreo Wed 25-Jun-25 11:03:00

AGAA4

We are already under threat. The UK government has said we must "prepare for a war scenario" today.

Iran is already active in the UK and we must strengthen our ability to cope with biological warfare among other threats.
Russia has been seen patrolling round our waters checking undersea cables. We can't forget about them.

The attack on Iran will mean that their cells in other countries including the UK will be out for revenge.

You’re right, and the UK hasn’t done anything to Iran remember, but this awful regime, along with Russia’s awful regime loathe the West and will do anything they can to harm us.

AGAA4 Wed 25-Jun-25 10:59:24

Hamas has been funded by Netanyahu let's not forget
Why ask if anyone thinks Iran with a nuclear weapon is less of a threat David?
Much damage can be done by the Iranian cells and we know our intelligence services are on their knees through lack of funding. We have to be grateful to them for intercepting huge amounts of threats from Iran and others.

Maremia Wed 25-Jun-25 10:57:34

Still reading up on Palestinian history, thanks for those recommendations GNs, but I think the Gaza 'encirclement' began before Hamas came to power.

Maremia Wed 25-Jun-25 10:54:53

As I have said before, being anti Netanyahu is not being anti semitic.
As I am saying now, being against Trump, that miltary genius who didn't actually serve his country because of his bone spurs, bombing another country, without consulting Congress, is not being pro-Iranian.
When you don't agree with our discussion points, please make the effort to find proper arguments, as Rinse did with her info dump, and in so doing, convince us to accept your viewpoints, and stop the slurs.
Is name calling against GN rules?

David49 Wed 25-Jun-25 10:51:18

AGAA4

We are already under threat. The UK government has said we must "prepare for a war scenario" today.

Iran is already active in the UK and we must strengthen our ability to cope with biological warfare among other threats.
Russia has been seen patrolling round our waters checking undersea cables. We can't forget about them.

The attack on Iran will mean that their cells in other countries including the UK will be out for revenge.

I’m sure Iran has got cells in other countries including the UK, hopefully our security services will keep them in check, the big threat is Iran sponsoring global terrorism, does anyone really believe that Iran will become less of a threat if it gets a nuclear weapon.
The tragedy of Gaza would not have happened if Hamas and other terrorists had not been funded by Iran

Anniebach Wed 25-Jun-25 10:47:53

Quote Cossy Wed 25-Jun-25 10:35:11
Anniebach
Iran wanted nuclear weapons before 13th June , as usual criticism falls on Israel
It’s not Israel Annie, it’s Netanyahu, who himself is a danger to his own people, almost as great a danger as Hamas are to Israel and Gaza.

I definitely do not believe one man dictates to the Israeli government, the Israeli army, the Israeli citizens

AGAA4 Wed 25-Jun-25 10:42:56

We are already under threat. The UK government has said we must "prepare for a war scenario" today.

Iran is already active in the UK and we must strengthen our ability to cope with biological warfare among other threats.
Russia has been seen patrolling round our waters checking undersea cables. We can't forget about them.

The attack on Iran will mean that their cells in other countries including the UK will be out for revenge.

Cossy Wed 25-Jun-25 10:35:11

Anniebach

Iran wanted nuclear weapons before 13th June , as usual criticism falls on Israel

It’s not Israel Annie, it’s Netanyahu, who himself is a danger to his own people, almost as great a danger as Hamas are to Israel and Gaza.

Cossy Wed 25-Jun-25 10:33:34

Maremia

David49, Iran was on the verge of signing a nuclear constraint deal. They had signed a deal years ago, but Trump tore that up, being the great statesman that he is.
Now, Netanyahu jumps in and starts attacking Iran?
Why?
To stop the new deal.
Trump tries to destroy Iran's nuclear capability. He fails.
Why would Iran ever try to come to the table again?
I wish they would, but I am not Iran.

I’m afraid I agree. Frankly I don’t agree with any country having nuclear weapons, it’s not a deterrent, it’s a status thing!

I don’t support Iran’s regime, but then again I don’t support many “regimes” in particular those against women and homosexuals, nor do I support war!

David49 Wed 25-Jun-25 10:33:09

Cossy

LizzieDrip

It has poked the 'bear' very hard, and made it ony more determined than ever that it needs nuclear bombs to defend themselves. Official estimates is that it has delayed it by a few months at best

Absolutely Claremont.

By bombing Iran, Netanyahu and Trump have given Iran the justification to say they need a nuclear deterrent, as a defence.

I completely agree and I think this is a huge mess

Even I agree with this, if Iran does get a nuclear weapon all the west is under threat

Cossy Wed 25-Jun-25 10:29:42

LizzieDrip

^It has poked the 'bear' very hard, and made it ony more determined than ever that it needs nuclear bombs to defend themselves. Official estimates is that it has delayed it by a few months at best^

Absolutely Claremont.

By bombing Iran, Netanyahu and Trump have given Iran the justification to say they need a nuclear deterrent, as a defence.

I completely agree and I think this is a huge mess

Anniebach Wed 25-Jun-25 10:23:53

Iran wanted nuclear weapons before 13th June , as usual criticism falls on Israel

AGAA4 Wed 25-Jun-25 10:17:07

I doubt many want Iran to have nuclear weapons but I fear that they will have fairly soon.
The attack by Israel and the US will mean that Iran will know they have to as both those countries have them.

By being concerned that the attack by the US and Israel on Iran has put us all in more danger does not mean I support Iran.

David49 Wed 25-Jun-25 10:16:05

LizzieDrip

^It’s not funny because Israel may decide to use nuclear weapons^

… and that would be ok?

No it’s not OK a non nuclear peaceful Iran is much preferable

Oreo Wed 25-Jun-25 09:55:49

And what comments other than that do you bring to this situation with Iran Bea65?

LizzieDrip Wed 25-Jun-25 09:54:20

It’s not funny because Israel may decide to use nuclear weapons

… and that would be ok?

Bea65 Wed 25-Jun-25 09:52:46

Crikey..above posters ..glad you’re not in control of red buttons! Bordering on the crazy…

Oreo Wed 25-Jun-25 09:47:47

Claremont

Whatever you think, whatever you believe, one thing is for certain, and that is that it is NOT FUNNY.

Give it up

David49 Wed 25-Jun-25 09:47:43

Claremont

Whatever you think, whatever you believe, one thing is for certain, and that is that it is NOT FUNNY.

It’s not funny because Israel may decide to use nuclear weapons, a non aggressive Iran is a much preferable alternative

Claremont Wed 25-Jun-25 09:44:54

Whatever you think, whatever you believe, one thing is for certain, and that is that it is NOT FUNNY.

Oreo Wed 25-Jun-25 09:41:35

David49

Maremia

Those Trump advisors, have you examined their experience and credentials?

If their intentions were peaceful why would the refuse inspections, why try to hide the factory deep inside a mountain, far too many Iran sympathizers on here, Iran has not been attacked for 30 yrs plus they are pursuing an Islamic fundamentalist campaign funding terrorists world wide, do you really want them to have nuclear weapons.

It would seem so by the replies on here wouldn’t it?