Trump has attacked Iran

Maremia

David49, Iran was on the verge of signing a nuclear constraint deal. They had signed a deal years ago, but Trump tore that up, being the great statesman that he is.
Now, Netanyahu jumps in and starts attacking Iran?
Why?
To stop the new deal.
Trump tries to destroy Iran's nuclear capability. He fails.
Why would Iran ever try to come to the table again?
I wish they would, but I am not Iran.

Did you read the link put up by RinseandRepeat ?
If you had then you would know that the scenario about Iran and its uranium enrichment programme was a very real threat.
They weren’t about to show any restraint at all, or sign anything or to allow inspections they were and are intent on going full steam ahead.
I really do wonder about all the sudden support on here for a regime that is so malign, could it possibly be because they are a sworn enemy of Israel🤔 and if not that reason, then what?
They fund terrorism all over the world including the UK, it’s thought that they fund the newly to be proscribed Action Palestine amongst many others.
They actually set up hezbollah, heavily funded hamas and the Houthis, they are a real and present danger to their own citizens.

David49

Maremia

Those Trump advisors, have you examined their experience and credentials?

If their intentions were peaceful why would the refuse inspections, why try to hide the factory deep inside a mountain, far too many Iran sympathizers on here, Iran has not been attacked for 30 yrs plus they are pursuing an Islamic fundamentalist campaign funding terrorists world wide, do you really want them to have nuclear weapons.

I agree with you David49

Iran is underhand and dangerous, as are the puppet terrorist they bank roll and arm.

Maremia

Those Trump advisors, have you examined their experience and credentials?

If their intentions were peaceful why would the refuse inspections, why try to hide the factory deep inside a mountain, far too many Iran sympathizers on here, Iran has not been attacked for 30 yrs plus they are pursuing an Islamic fundamentalist campaign funding terrorists world wide, do you really want them to have nuclear weapons.

Claremont

Whitewavemark2

Apparently the big bombs were used. Trump is claiming complete obliteration.

I doubt it.

But if he is correct - then job done. Everyone can go home and peace reigns.

Official news now that the bombs sealed off the entrances to 2 of the facilities, but did not collapse underground infrastructure.

It has poked the 'bear' very hard, and made it ony more determined than ever that it needs nuclear bombs to defend themselves. Official estimates is that it has delayed it by a few months at best.

Hence my comment about using the smiley/happy emoticon
NOT being appropriate in the context, at all. This is VERY serious.

It isn’t a bear, more like an angry squirrel.
What don’t people understand about the fact that Iran were already going hell for leather to acquire nuclear in any case.
‘Official news’ hmmmm, there really isn’t any you know, as only the Iranians actually know and won’t tell the truth about.
There aren’t any better bombs for the job than the ones the US planes dropped, so hard to believe Iran will be able to clear rubble in a matter of weeks in all the sites targeted.
If they don’t allow inspections then there will have to be more attacks.
And I will add again, in case you’re in any doubt ,that you don’t control posters and emojis.
I was and am, very pleased that the Iranian nuclear threat to Israel and other countries is, a least for a while put back, especially if they were to allow their proxies to get their hands on them.

David49, Iran was on the verge of signing a nuclear constraint deal. They had signed a deal years ago, but Trump tore that up, being the great statesman that he is.
Now, Netanyahu jumps in and starts attacking Iran?
Why?
To stop the new deal.
Trump tries to destroy Iran's nuclear capability. He fails.
Why would Iran ever try to come to the table again?
I wish they would, but I am not Iran.

Quote GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Jun-25 09:14:35
Don’t forget that Iran have sleeper cells across the world, they are a dangerous regime with no thought to women, girls or gays.

We should all pray that the USA have pushed back their nuclear programme by more than a few weeks…

The treatment of women in Iran is of no importance what is of much importance they want to demolish Israel and all Jews

It has poked the 'bear' very hard, and made it ony more determined than ever that it needs nuclear bombs to defend themselves. Official estimates is that it has delayed it by a few months at best

Absolutely Claremont.

By bombing Iran, Netanyahu and Trump have given Iran the justification to say they need a nuclear deterrent, as a defence.

Those Trump advisors, have you examined their experience and credentials?

Apparently as little as 25kg of 90% enriched uranium is needed to make a bomb it’s probably been dispersed in sealed casks to a dozen different locations.

This war is far from over ALL the evidence point to Iran actively making a nuclear weapon, the war will end when Iran gives up its nuclear programme.

Don’t forget that Iran have sleeper cells across the world, they are a dangerous regime with no thought to women, girls or gays.

We should all pray that the USA have pushed back their nuclear programme by more than a few weeks…

As someone indicated upthread, some of this miltary 'posturing' is possible orchestrated.
We don't know if there are pictures of where they went.
Flights of planes were seen coming from China. Presumably those planes returned home. Were they delivering or receiving? Can you transport nuclear materials by plane?
Would that be detectable?

As I posted upthread, if Iran becomes a nuclear power I wouldn’t trust them not to allow one of their terrorist puppet organisations to use a nuclear/dirty bomb.

This would absolve Iran as they would just say it wasn’t us

Rocknroll5me

I think Trump is making the right call. No president has surrounded himself with more advisors and he has the ear of many powerful people across the region.
We know his instincts are against war. We know he thinks it’s a waste of resources and somehow everyone has their price and it’s just a matter of doing the best deal. But Iran is a very different culture, with a very religious patriarchal leadership which as we know has reversed all freedom of women. They are fanatics. They would like to destroy Israel. America’s interests are deeply held in Israel. So Trump has to act. For Iran to have nuclear power is unthinkable. Trump is the least warmongering president there could be. But he has listened to his advisors and has tried to take out irans nuclear capability. It is more dangerous to allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons.

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Yes, I think despite Trump's assertions, Iran still has that deadly capability. But what can be done? Netanyahu has thrown away his Ace card.

How come those satellite pics of lorries leaving the nuclear site weren’t made available at the time? Could have saved a good deal of trouble. And as someone else said, are there no pics saying where they went to?

Trump needs to believe that his bombs did what he intended since he doesn’t believe in failure as regards himself. So it may be stalemate for a bit.

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Whitewavemark2

Apparently the big bombs were used. Trump is claiming complete obliteration.

I doubt it.

But if he is correct - then job done. Everyone can go home and peace reigns.

Official news now that the bombs sealed off the entrances to 2 of the facilities, but did not collapse underground infrastructure.

It has poked the 'bear' very hard, and made it ony more determined than ever that it needs nuclear bombs to defend themselves. Official estimates is that it has delayed it by a few months at best.

Hence my comment about using the smiley/happy emoticon
NOT being appropriate in the context, at all. This is VERY serious.

Maremia

Just my opinion Iam64, but Israel's best chance now would be it's own 'regime' change by getting rid of Netanyahu.

Leaving Iran with 400kg of enriched Uranium, does to sound like a long lasting peace

Just my opinion Iam64, but Israel's best chance now would be it's own 'regime' change by getting rid of Netanyahu.

MaizieD

David49

Iam64

David59, it isn’t only Iran that needs a non aggressive regime

Absolutely, Israel is only defending itself, Iran is funding every terrorist group across the world.

Can you justify that?.

Israel were the AGGRESSORS, David.

So you don’t regard Iran funding Hamas, Hezbolah and Houthis as agression

So, as David49, and others including the Pentagon, says, the bombing raid was a failure.
Trump is annoyed at the denials, for the sake of truth? Probably more because he wants to lord it large at the NATO summit, after his squeaky tank parade fiasco, and being largely ignored at the G7.
He is now a hero, saviour of Israel.
But, despite any relief felt, Iran still has nuclear 'potential'.
How threatening is that potential?
Rinseandrepeat has offered substatial data, that some, up thread, have applauded, which indicates 'very serious'.
That material most likely still exists.
But, the programme has been disrupted. Yes. And delayed, but allegedly, only by a matter of months.
So, what happens now? We can all guess and hope.
My guess, sadly, is that Iran stays below the radar, appears to be compliant with the ceasefire, while with Russia's promised help, and possibly assistance from China, gets on with what it feels it has to do.
Over to the naysayers now, to hopefully point out just how wrong I am.

No of course not. It’s also debatable now that Israel is only defending itself.

David49

Iam64

David59, it isn’t only Iran that needs a non aggressive regime

Absolutely, Israel is only defending itself, Iran is funding every terrorist group across the world.

Can you justify that?.

Israel were the AGGRESSORS, David.

Iam64

David59, it isn’t only Iran that needs a non aggressive regime

Absolutely, Israel is only defending itself, Iran is funding every terrorist group across the world.

Can you justify that?.

David49

MayBee70

It’s all surreal. Why the hell did Israel bomb Iran? Why should we be involved at all??

Israel bombed Iran in an attempt to make it give up its nuclear weapons programme, the US joined in and bombed the sites in the hope of destroying it. They certainly severely damaged it, however it is thought the 400kg of enriched uranium was moved before the bombing, this means the nuclear bomb programme has not ended.

Trump then did his usual “flip flop” and declared a peace deal, this might prove to be a fatal error, Iran will now redouble its effort to produce a bomb, what is needed is a non aggressive regime in Iran.

The nuclear sites are not ‘severely damaged’ at all. Evaluation by experts has shown that the deep chambers are untouched. Approach tunnels have been blocked, but can, of course, be easily unblocked. The uranium was removed well before the US raid.

One report I read notes that Iran’s nuclear programme has probably been set back by a few weeks…