Rachel reeves

Shall I point out that my speculation ( along with most political pundits) is more reasoned than your stick insect or any other speculation? Yes I think I shall.🤔

MayBee70

Oreo

MayBee70

I don’t like the Speaker.

No?
Why not?
It isn’t the easiest job but he seems to do it ok without being too heavy handed.

He often comes down heavy on people for no reason but ignores what is imo bad behaviour. He was once downright horrible to Caroline Lucas and I complained to the Speakers Office about it. Since then I’ve noticed him do it several times.

Ok 😃

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

growstuff

The fact is that nobody on GN knows why she was upset. Reasons given are speculation.

They are, but reasoned speculation I think.

😄😄

I've heard she was upset because her pet stick insect had just died.

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

growstuff

The fact is that nobody on GN knows why she was upset. Reasons given are speculation.

They are, but reasoned speculation I think.

😄😄

Reasoned….the fact that she has had a terrible year with constant flak about her policies all leading up to this week with a likely back bench rebellion which could have led to a vote of no confidence in Starmer.She put all her eggs in this welfare bill basket which were then broken on the floor, not only would it now make any savings but likely to cost money.Told twice by the Speaker to keep answers short the day before, lack of sleep
( bags under the bags) and much mocking by the other side about the bill.Then, finally Starmer not saying that ‘yes, she will be here for the next election’ in answer to Badenoch
Seems like reasoned speculation to me.

Oreo

kittylester

I believe that the labour party advisers were at fault for allowing Rachel Reeves to be there.

Why? They didn’t know anything.Keir Starmer didn’t know anything, Angela Rayner didn’t know anything.

Exactly. Rachel Reeves, like all others in their workplace is responsible for deciding if they’re fit for work. No diubt, RR decided though upset about something, she could box it off till end of play. I once did this when delivering difficult training with a colleague. Tough personal stuff and need to turn round half way to the venue ‘flooding’). Fortunately I knew I needed an hour to reset myself. Even better, was working alongside a good male colleague who stepped in, delivered my session and I recovered to finish that day/ week
That might have been much more difficult if I’d been an MP at pmqs

Bring back John (should have got a Peerage) Bercow.

Not very reasoned speculation. Impossible to know what Reeves was upset about. A personal matter? Having just had a row with the speaker? Who knows?

Oreo

MayBee70

I don’t like the Speaker.

No?
Why not?
It isn’t the easiest job but he seems to do it ok without being too heavy handed.

He often comes down heavy on people for no reason but ignores what is imo bad behaviour. He was once downright horrible to Caroline Lucas and I complained to the Speakers Office about it. Since then I’ve noticed him do it several times.

Do you think Kemi will apologise? She surely should.
Keir has apologised. He said he hadn't noticed she was weeping. I get that because you don't see someone beside you.

Oreo

growstuff

The fact is that nobody on GN knows why she was upset. Reasons given are speculation.

They are, but reasoned speculation I think.

😄😄

growstuff

The fact is that nobody on GN knows why she was upset. Reasons given are speculation.

They are, but reasoned speculation I think.

MayBee70

I don’t like the Speaker.

No?
Why not?
It isn’t the easiest job but he seems to do it ok without being too heavy handed.

The fact is that nobody on GN knows why she was upset. Reasons given are speculation.

So many mind readers here, know what she was thinking, know what her colleagues were thinking

I watched PMQ’s .
I didn’t see the two tears until looking at close up footage on BBC online news.
I thought she looked miserable is all.
Starmer didn’t know, neither did Rayner or the person sitting on RR’s left as they couldn’t see her face.

I don’t like the Speaker.

It has been reported that she had 'some words' with the Speaker just before PMQ, so perhaps it stems from that.
She seemed in good form today

I am not a fan of Angela Rayner, I would have had more respect for her if she had acknowledged RR’s distress. The same goes for the PM, I do not buy into the excuses that they didn’t notice/know

All it would have taken was a hand on her arm, like the hand on RR’s shoulder from the MP immediately behind her.

I have just heard, on the news, Rachel Reeves say that it was a personal matter and she wasn't going into it. I hope she won't now be hounded by the press and social media to say what it was.

kittylester

I believe that the labour party advisers were at fault for allowing Rachel Reeves to be there.

Why? They didn’t know anything.Keir Starmer didn’t know anything, Angela Rayner didn’t know anything.

RR has sat through a lot of PMQ’s and laughed at jibes both thrown and received so is well used to it.
I don’t believe pmt or menopause was the cause of this at all, and imagine if a man suggested that? You’re not are you?
No, it would have been the culmination of a year of her bad policies coming home to roost and no ringing endorsement by the boss, until today.

I believe that the labour party advisers were at fault for allowing Rachel Reeves to be there.

And amazingly from the market.

Oreo

eazybee

I am glad that RR returned to work today after behaving unwisely yesterday. Kemi Badenoch's behaviour was not kind, but it was not the cause of her distress.
Reeves is Chancellor, a premier position on the national and international stage, and her behaviour yesterday unsettled the market.
The speculation that she might be sacked provoked fears, mainly about who would follow her, a serious reflection on the state of the present government.
Whatever happened happened off-stage, and she should have pulled herself together and faced it out. She will be identified by this for the rest of her career.

I agree.
It became obvious today that being cheered up behind the scenes no doubt and then publicly endorsed by Starmer RR was upset by politics yesterday as the bill was sabotaged by their own side. So happy and smiling today, at least for the cameras.
The tears in the chamber were not obvious from the Conservative side as she wasn’t actually crying just looking miserable which Badenoch picked up on.True it wasn’t kind but that’s politics.

I think there used to be a mutual respect between MP’s from all parties which seems to be lacking now. Can’t help but feel televising parliament hasn’t helped; playing to the crowd and all that. Tony Benn once told me that he and Margaret Thatcher had a mutual respect first each other. I don’t like the Speaker. I often find him unfair; ignores bad behaviour but sometimes picks on people unfairly.

I can think of a few personal situations that would distress a person to the brink of tears. A lot of them uniquely affecting women. Maybe others are made of sterner stuff.
Well done Rachel for carrying on with her job, despite the jibes from Kemi.
I don’t see it as a party issue, today I’ve heard personal support for Rachel from MPs of all parties.