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Rachel reeves

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Ellie Anne Thu 03-Jul-25 14:59:14

I have no idea why Rachel Reeves was so upset in the commons. Whether it was personal issues or work related is not my business.
But I was disgusted that kemi badenoch used her distress to score political points.

Oreo Thu 03-Jul-25 18:18:32

windmill1

Whatever Reeves was or wasn't crying about, it has to be no less than astonishing that the sight of her tears at PMQ's should cause the stock market to wobble uncertainly.

What kind of people are running the financial institutions of this country?

She’s the Chancellor of the Exchequer! Of course it would immediately have an effect.

Oreo Thu 03-Jul-25 18:16:50

eazybee

I am glad that RR returned to work today after behaving unwisely yesterday. Kemi Badenoch's behaviour was not kind, but it was not the cause of her distress.
Reeves is Chancellor, a premier position on the national and international stage, and her behaviour yesterday unsettled the market.
The speculation that she might be sacked provoked fears, mainly about who would follow her, a serious reflection on the state of the present government.
Whatever happened happened off-stage, and she should have pulled herself together and faced it out. She will be identified by this for the rest of her career.

I agree.
It became obvious today that being cheered up behind the scenes no doubt and then publicly endorsed by Starmer RR was upset by politics yesterday as the bill was sabotaged by their own side. So happy and smiling today, at least for the cameras.
The tears in the chamber were not obvious from the Conservative side as she wasn’t actually crying just looking miserable which Badenoch picked up on.True it wasn’t kind but that’s politics.

windmill1 Thu 03-Jul-25 18:15:34

Whatever Reeves was or wasn't crying about, it has to be no less than astonishing that the sight of her tears at PMQ's should cause the stock market to wobble uncertainly.

What kind of people are running the financial institutions of this country?

growstuff Thu 03-Jul-25 18:05:55

twinnytwin

Good grief, some on Gransnet have very short memories. All the spite and vitriol that Labour spouted at female Tory ministers over all the years in opposition has been forgotten.

The shouting, jibes and haranging every week at PMQs that Kemi Badenoch has to put up with from the Labour benches and backbenchers is outrageous but no-one on Gransnet comments that she's being bullied, poor thing. Double standards.

Errr no. People don't sneer at Badenoch. Even if they did, the answer is to be the adult and behave like one. There's something about Badenoch which seems to compel her to sneer and mock. She's even worse when she's not on TV.

lafergar Thu 03-Jul-25 18:02:59

so not much sympathy from me

Fancy that.

growstuff Thu 03-Jul-25 18:02:32

Badenoch did not attack her for her policy. She mocked her for looking upset without knowing the cause. There's a difference.

growstuff Thu 03-Jul-25 18:00:33

eazybee You also seem to know why Reeves was upset. Where did you find out?

Aveline Thu 03-Jul-25 17:59:40

I found it very hard to.even look at someone in such obvious distress. I can't understand KBs deliberately unpleasant comments. Kicking someone when they are down is never likely to win people's favour.

growstuff Thu 03-Jul-25 17:59:30

Jaberwok Where did you find out why Reeves was upset?

eazybee Thu 03-Jul-25 17:58:13

I am glad that RR returned to work today after behaving unwisely yesterday. Kemi Badenoch's behaviour was not kind, but it was not the cause of her distress.
Reeves is Chancellor, a premier position on the national and international stage, and her behaviour yesterday unsettled the market.
The speculation that she might be sacked provoked fears, mainly about who would follow her, a serious reflection on the state of the present government.
Whatever happened happened off-stage, and she should have pulled herself together and faced it out. She will be identified by this for the rest of her career.

Allira Thu 03-Jul-25 17:48:58

Visgir1

RR was upset before she went into the chamber, she should not have gone in.
Once in your in the firing line you have to take it on the chin, that's high level Politics, no one expected this reaction from her.

She has done the same to others in the past, and she will in the future.

She has done the same to others in the past, and she will in the future.
If she has, I hope she's learnt a lesson.

Allira Thu 03-Jul-25 17:47:51

Whitewavemark2

Kicking someone when they are clearly in distress is not the same as political point scoring.

Badenoch is one of the worst performers in parliament in a long time.

Kicking someone when they are clearly in distress is not the same as political point scoring.

This ✔

It was cruel.

Retroladywriting Thu 03-Jul-25 17:47:35

Absolutely.

Jaberwok Thu 03-Jul-25 17:40:35

Ummm, personal ?!!.that's what I thought at first, but now it would appear that a major upset with Starmer over the welfare bill that is now going to cost more than it already does was the most likely cause. No wonder Kemi gave her a hard time, the whole saga turned into monumental embarrassment. When you think of how Mrs.May was attacked again and again on all sides after brexit even using the nickname Maybot and worse on regular basis, especially on here which was pretty unpleasant but not unexpected! I don't remember her weeping in Parliament, or Mrs Thatcher come to that. I don't remember anyone feeling any sympathy for Mrs May either on here or elsewhere. Of course Kemi attacked her that's her job, if Rachel can't stand it then resign. A personal problem that's very upsetting then don't attend, a row with your boss, then that's tough. Politics is a rough old game and frankly if you choose that bear garden for your career, then inevitably you have to put up with a lot of unpleasantness. It goes with the territory.

Visgir1 Thu 03-Jul-25 17:27:38

RR was upset before she went into the chamber, she should not have gone in.
Once in your in the firing line you have to take it on the chin, that's high level Politics, no one expected this reaction from her.

She has done the same to others in the past, and she will in the future.

twinnytwin Thu 03-Jul-25 17:22:46

Good grief, some on Gransnet have very short memories. All the spite and vitriol that Labour spouted at female Tory ministers over all the years in opposition has been forgotten.

The shouting, jibes and haranging every week at PMQs that Kemi Badenoch has to put up with from the Labour benches and backbenchers is outrageous but no-one on Gransnet comments that she's being bullied, poor thing. Double standards.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Jul-25 17:04:09

The BBC need a total clear out of the top management.

mrsmeldrew Thu 03-Jul-25 16:52:36

Hugh Sykes of the BBC asked Keir Starmer what was the issue with Rachel Reeves distress.

BBC have really sunk to new depths (already low to start with).

Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Jul-25 16:50:16

I give Badenoch 2 years at the most. Mind you who on earth will replace her. They are all a bit grim.

LizzieDrip Thu 03-Jul-25 16:48:37

Very interesting take on the situation from The Independent:

www.independent.co.uk/voices/kemi-badenoch-rachel-reeves-crying-tears-b2781778.html

Iam64 Thu 03-Jul-25 16:37:24

Interesting that so far on Gransnet, posters are less critical, even supportive of Rachel Reeves than Kemi Badenoch.
Reeves is back looking positive at work today. Badenoch did herself no favours - again

Mt61 Thu 03-Jul-25 16:31:46

Nice to know there is a human being hiding in there. I thought she was a tough thing

Mt61 Thu 03-Jul-25 16:30:16

Mt61

Ha yes she probably will.

Growstuff

Mt61 Thu 03-Jul-25 16:29:59

Ha yes she probably will.

AGAA4 Thu 03-Jul-25 16:28:13

I felt sorry for her. I hate to see people visibly upset. We all have times when things get too much but luckily we don't have to sit on the front bench at PMQs.
Badenoch just showed what a vitriolic person she is.