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Israel to conquer Gaza. Part 3

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Claremont Fri 04-Jul-25 18:09:30

because tragically it is not over.

AGAA4 Mon 21-Jul-25 19:27:15

Obviously the leaders signed Anniebach. You are right though. Not everyone is sickened by atrocities and genocide.

Anniebach Mon 21-Jul-25 18:54:52

Quote AGAA4 Mon 21-Jul-25 18:48:30
Doctoring of videos on both sides. I think but there's no doubt about the atrocities on the people of Gaza.
All those countries who signed are as sickened by it as most of the posters on this thread

You don’t know all,those countries are sickened, if you mean leaders then political

AGAA4 Mon 21-Jul-25 18:48:30

Doctoring of videos on both sides. I think but there's no doubt about the atrocities on the people of Gaza.
All those countries who signed are as sickened by it as most of the posters on this thread.

Anniebach Mon 21-Jul-25 18:28:22

Quote Smileless2012 Mon 21-Jul-25 18:18:37
Videos can be doctored; human remains not so easily.

Yes, this has concerned me since the war started

Smileless2012 Mon 21-Jul-25 18:18:37

Videos can be doctored; human remains not so easily.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Jul-25 18:16:25

Forensic scientists don’t view videos.

They look at bodies, injuries, reasons for death etc. That is how they were able to establish genocide in Bosnia and that is how they will establish genocide in Gaza.

Someone must be held to account. Netanyahu, and his government must answer to the findings.

Anniebach Mon 21-Jul-25 18:12:52

Quote Maremia Mon 21-Jul-25 18:08:22
Much more difficult for forensic teams to investigate

There is much video to view

Maremia Mon 21-Jul-25 18:08:22

Much more difficult for forensic teams to investigate, if the buildings are destroyed.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Jul-25 18:07:18

“Settler terrorism”

Here, here

Smileless2012 Mon 21-Jul-25 18:06:06

The only remaining area in Gaza that has any buildings standing is now being attacked by Israel and this, while supposed 'peace talks' are supposed to be ongoing.

We have the 6.00 pm news on but I can't bring myself to watch.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Jul-25 17:34:56

Aid must get in today!!

There is dreadful footage of skeletal people and children collapsing and dying as they wait for food.

LizzieDrip Mon 21-Jul-25 17:29:36

AGAA4

So glad to see countries standing together to end the conflict in Gaza. To see the people at last being fed and not afraid of violence every day and to get the hostages home to their families would be wonderful.

Hear, hear 👏👏👏

Maremia Mon 21-Jul-25 17:20:34

Was that 'treatment' you allude to on this post Annieb?

Maremia Mon 21-Jul-25 17:18:15

What does your post mean AnnieB? Why would I threaten you, and with what?
I was asked upthread to provide details of the thread I am researching. I will try to find it, as requested, and will report back, as a matter of courtesy to any who are interested.
What is threatening about that?

AGAA4 Mon 21-Jul-25 16:50:04

So glad to see countries standing together to end the conflict in Gaza. To see the people at last being fed and not afraid of violence every day and to get the hostages home to their families would be wonderful.

Anniebach Mon 21-Jul-25 16:45:04

Quote Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Jul-25 16:35:10
Let us hope so.

What I do notice is that there were so many posters who supported Israel’s actions, but have gradually dropped off one by one over the months.

Does this mean that they can no longer support Israel’s actions or simply have lost interest? I am hoping it is the first reason, because I I am beginning to hope that there is sufficient optimism to think that the children might finally live in peace and with full tums

Neither, just pointless , after the treatment of Philippa an
Israeli Jew by vast majority of posters

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Jul-25 16:36:05

Reply to foxie

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Jul-25 16:35:10

Let us hope so.

What I do notice is that there were so many posters who supported Israel’s actions, but have gradually dropped off one by one over the months.

Does this mean that they can no longer support Israel’s actions or simply have lost interest? I am hoping it is the first reason, because I I am beginning to hope that there is sufficient optimism to think that the children might finally live in peace and with full tums.

Anniebach Mon 21-Jul-25 16:34:55

Quote foxie48 Mon 21-Jul-25 16:29:45
I am pleased to see our government align itself with so many other democratic countries in making this statement. I think it covers all of the issues that have been raised in this thread, clearly condemns Hamas and demands the release of the hostages whilst condemning Israel's activities in Gaza. Hopefully now this can be discussed without accusations that strong criticism of Israel's behaviour is based on antisemitism.

No criticism of Gaza Palestinians saying “they will wipe all Jews
from the planet”:

Anniebach Mon 21-Jul-25 16:31:19

Quote Maremia Mon 21-Jul-25 16:08:50
Will be worth it Annieb. Could have some time tonight. Don't worry, will report back.
If the Admins say it was okay for the GNs to comment on this thread on another, so be it. Just means I can similarly post on this thread about what was said.

Do explain please, your advice to me “don’t worry,will report
back “, it certainly can’t be assurance from you, so,a threat ?

foxie48 Mon 21-Jul-25 16:29:45

I am pleased to see our government align itself with so many other democratic countries in making this statement. I think it covers all of the issues that have been raised in this thread, clearly condemns Hamas and demands the release of the hostages whilst condemning Israel's activities in Gaza. Hopefully now this can be discussed without accusations that strong criticism of Israel's behaviour is based on antisemitism.

Maremia Mon 21-Jul-25 16:09:55

Thank you Whitewave. Had interrupted the 'Search' to post exactly that.
Yes, at last.

Maremia Mon 21-Jul-25 16:08:50

Will be worth it Annieb. Could have some time tonight. Don't worry, will report back.
If the Admins say it was okay for the GNs to comment on this thread on another, so be it. Just means I can similarly post on this thread about what was said.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Jul-25 16:08:12

AT LONG LAST

We've just had a statement from the UK and more than 20 other countries calling for an immediate end to the war in Gaza.
Here's the statement from the UK Foreign Office in full:
We, the signatories listed below, come together with a simple, urgent message: the war in Gaza must end now. The suffering of civilians in Gaza has reached new depths.
The Israeli government’s aid delivery model is dangerous, fuels instability and deprives Gazans of human dignity.
We condemn the drip feeding of aid and the inhumane killing of civilians, including children, seeking to meet their most basic needs of water and food. It is horrifying that over 800 Palestinians have been killed while seeking aid.
The Israeli government’s denial of essential humanitarian assistance to the civilian population is unacceptable. Israel must comply with its obligations under international humanitarian law. The hostages cruelly held captive by Hamas since 7 October 2023 continue to suffer terribly. We condemn their continued detention and call for their immediate and unconditional release.
A negotiated ceasefire offers the best hope of bringing them home and ending the agony of their families. We call on the Israeli government to immediately lift restrictions on the flow of aid and to urgently enable the UN and humanitarian NGOs [non-governmental organisations] to do their life-saving work safely and effectively. We call on all parties to protect civilians and uphold the obligations of international humanitarian law.
Proposals to remove the Palestinian population into a “humanitarian city” are completely unacceptable. Permanent forced displacement is a violation of international humanitarian law. We strongly oppose any steps towards territorial or demographic change in the occupied Palestinian territories.
The E1 settlement plan announced by Israel’s civil administration, if implemented, would divide a Palestinian state in two, marking a flagrant breach of international law and critically undermine the two-state solution.
Meanwhile, settlement building across the West Bank including east Jerusalem has accelerated while settler violence against Palestinians has soared. This must stop. We urge the parties and the international community to unite in a common effort to bring this terrible conflict to an end, through an immediate, unconditional and permanent ceasefire.
Further bloodshed serves no purpose. We reaffirm our complete support to the efforts of the US, Qatar and Egypt to achieve this. We are prepared to take further action to support an immediate ceasefire and a political pathway to security and peace for Israelis, Palestinians and the entire region.
This statement has been signed by: The foreign ministers of Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the UK. Plus the EU commissioner for equality, preparedness and crisis management.

Anniebach Mon 21-Jul-25 15:59:54

Gosh how many threads are there to search, and to search every post on each thread

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