Israel to conquer Gaza. Part 3

Smileless2012

I would think the Palestinians have too much to grieve for to be pleased about anything Annie.

Yes like a mothers baby choking on mashed chickpeas because she had no breast milk and that was the only food she had access to.

Outside the gates to Gaza in Egypt there is sufficient food to feed everyone for 2 months.

Maximum inhumanity has been reached.

I would think the Palestinians have too much to grieve for to be pleased about anything Annie.

Quote Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Jul-25 16:16:44
He has done so because of the far right of his cabinet, who want Gaza completely destroyed, Palestinians killed or expelled and Gaza given over to Israeli settlers.

I think that they might indeed succeed in doing so, but at what cost?

They have lost world support and any moral high ground.

Many Jews feel that this will be the end of Israel if Netanyahu continues down this road.

That will please Palestinians

He has done so because of the far right of his cabinet, who want Gaza completely destroyed, Palestinians killed or expelled and Gaza given over to Israeli settlers.

I think that they might indeed succeed in doing so, but at what cost?

They have lost world support and any moral high ground.

Many Jews feel that this will be the end of Israel if Netanyahu continues down this road.

A catastrophe for all.

Time and again Netanyahu has chosen to withdraw from the peace talks. Hostages would be alive snd free if Netanyahu hadn’t behaved like he has done.

74% of Israelis think that the war should end immediately and that Netanyahu has conducted the war badly.

mileless2012 Sat 19-Jul-25 15:37:20
Netanyahu had a chance to do the right thing for the hostages and Israel but he chose to hang on to power and continue the suffering of many not a legacy for anyone to be proud of.

What was the chance ?

Netanyahu had a chance to do the right thing for the hostages and Israel but he chose to hang on to power and continue the suffering of many not a legacy for anyone to be proud of.

Quote AGAA4 Sat 19-Jul-25 15:30:27
Netanyahu was given a choice when Smotrich backed by Ben Gvir heard there could be a deal made for peace.
If he opted to get the hostages back and do a deal with Hamas he would not have a government.
Netanyahu's aim as well as others in the Knesset is to establish Jews in Gaza. The longer the war goes on the more Jews will arrive in Gaza.
Netanyahu had a chance to do the right thing for the hostages and Israel but he chose to hang on to power and continue the suffering of many.

Was this said in parliament ?

Netanyahu was given a choice when Smotrich backed by Ben Gvir heard there could be a deal made for peace.
If he opted to get the hostages back and do a deal with Hamas he would not have a government.
Netanyahu's aim as well as others in the Knesset is to establish Jews in Gaza. The longer the war goes on the more Jews will arrive in Gaza.
Netanyahu had a chance to do the right thing for the hostages and Israel but he chose to hang on to power and continue the suffering of many.

I await the hard evidence , not the truth at the time

Smileless2012

It's good to know that there is evidence to substantiate what some of us believe WWM.

There isn’t.

Whitewavemark2

The NYT has produced a report compiled over the months since Oct. 7th that give substantial and hard evidence which proves that Netanyahu prolonged the war in Gaza in order to stay in power.

There is no evidence just conjecture and opinion.

silverlining48 Sat 19-Jul-25 12:24:29
Didn’t you find it shocking, rather than ‘interesting’? that a commanding officer verified the death of a 13 year old by shooting the child a second time, point blank in the face?

It wasn’t true, seems “truth at the Time” fits with “my truth,
your truth” not the truth, you may accept “I thought it was
true at the time”

Didn’t you find it shocking, rather than ‘interesting’? that a commanding officer verified the death of a 13 year old by shooting the child a second time, point blank in the face?

I did look for info, posted something of interest re the revered
journalist, found “Truth at the Time” rather interesting

“What evidence, what proof ? “

The statement by a respected Israeli as given by WWM is a start. Or look for yourself instead of asking others to provide, which you always dispute.
There’s plenty out there if you care to look.

In 2005, Uvda broadcast a documentary on the killing of 13-year-old Iman Darweesh Al Hams by IDF troops in the Gaza Strip. According to her investigation, the commanding officer, identified as Captain R., verified her death by shooting her from point-blank range.[5] Captain R. was eventually acquitted by a court martial. Following his acquittal, he filed a lawsuit against her and channel 2 for libel. The Jerusalem District Court found Dayan liable for libel and awarded Captain R. NIS 300,000 in damages. However,[6] the Jerusalem District Court has denied Captain R.'s demand that Dayan reveal her sources.[7]
Dayan filed an appeal to the Supreme Court of Israel, which then reversed the ruling of the District Court. The Supreme Court stated that the documentary programme did cause damage to captain R., but that Dayan was protected by the Substantial truth doctrine. The court stated that, at the time of the broadcast, the details on the programme could be known to be sufficiently reliable to a "reasonable journalist", and the court also clarified the concept of "Truth at the Time", pertaining to the case.

Final paragraph in a report in The Guardian.

“This week I spoke to the revered Israel journalist Ilana Dayan for the Unholy podcast. She described how Israelis were stuck for so long in 7 October, but now “October 8th at least has dawned on us. We finally can ask, and have to ask, the tough questions with regard to our leadership, with regard to the tragedy in Gaza, with regard to this endless war. History will judge the leadership, but it will judge us too.”

Israelis will indeed have to face a great reckoning for the destruction they have wreaked in Gaza. But the first to be judged should be Benjamin Netanyahu, who had the power of life and death in his hands and chose the death of others, so that his political career might live. He should bear the shame of it until his final breath.”

Jonathan Freedland

It's good to know that there is evidence to substantiate what some of us believe WWM.

What evidence, what proof ?

The NYT has produced a report compiled over the months since Oct. 7th that give substantial and hard evidence which proves that Netanyahu prolonged the war in Gaza in order to stay in power.

Quote silverlining48 Fri 18-Jul-25 13:14:33
I would agree that to proscribe palestianan action, the group who painted planes as ridiculous. It was criminal damage, certainly, but not terrorism

The conversation was on the BBC documentary shown February then withdrawn with an apology

I would agree that to proscribe palestianan action, the group who painted planes as ridiculous. It was criminal damage, certainly, but not terrorism.

he BBC’s decision to stand by its head of news, Deborah Turness, after she appeared to downplay the UK’s full proscription of Hamas, has been described as a “sick joke”.

Footage has emerged of Turness on a BBC staff call about the controversial Gaza: How to Survive a Warzone documentary, in which she attempts to distinguish between the political and military wings of Hamas. The documentary was pulled after it was revealed that its child narrator, Abdullah, was the son of a senior Hamas official.

She is head of news BBC

I have just found a really good informative timeline about the real human effect of the blockade by Israel had on the Palestinians over the past 50 odd years.

My goodness!

Just google - oxfam, Gaza, timeline, blockade.