Israel to conquer Gaza. Part 3

Anniebach

Quote growstuff Fri 11-Jul-25 09:47:24
Anniebach
Quote growstuff Fri 11-Jul-25 09:22:11
nanna8
I don’t blame her not staying and it is a pity because she was actually there and could shed light on things we only hear secondhand or third hand.
No, she was in Israel, not Gaza, so relied on the media and official announcements, just like anybody else. Her posts weren't objective and unbiassed.

And majority of posts here are objective and unbiased ? The many, many links to the BBC, and the “my many Jewish friends opinions” . Let’s not forget this morning “Jews say it’s
genocide”
Who claimed they are?

How is stating that "Jews say it's genocide" not objective and biased? Clearly, some Jews are claiming it's genocide, so it's a statement of fact. Whether or not what is happening in Gaza is genocide (and don't forget that it's only a word) would be up to international courts to decide.

Then I reply “Jews say it is not genocide “

Frankly, I'm beginning to wonder if you use AI to generate your posts.

Oreo

They increased here in the UK from right after the terrible events of October 23 and kept right on going to the present day.
It doesn’t take much in any case for the antisemites to come out of the woodwork.

Have you ever met a non-Muslim antisemite? I have. One was my godmother. She was involved in neo-Nazi groups and when my mother died, I found some of the photographic evidence. Ironically, of course, they hated Muslims too. Those groups are still active in the UK and some of them are behind antisemitic attacks, including online trolling.

I am happy to share with you Oreo, as to where I find information about what is happening to the people of Gaza. I am getting my information mainly from the BBC, the Guardian, Byline Times, posts on Facebook from a great variety of Aid and Church agencies, from the variably sourced MSM articles on my computer, from sources about the history of the area, which were recommended to me by Posters on these GAZA threads, including books, research articles, quotes from Israeli Politicians that have been presented on these threads, research about the concept of AMALAK, dictionary definitions of GENOCIDE and others.
Thanks by the way to Posters who responded to my requests for enlightenment. One particular Poster, who shall not be named, suggested I find out for myself,
well Reader, I did.

Quote growstuff Fri 11-Jul-25 09:47:24
Anniebach
Quote growstuff Fri 11-Jul-25 09:22:11
nanna8
I don’t blame her not staying and it is a pity because she was actually there and could shed light on things we only hear secondhand or third hand.
No, she was in Israel, not Gaza, so relied on the media and official announcements, just like anybody else. Her posts weren't objective and unbiassed.

And majority of posts here are objective and unbiased ? The many, many links to the BBC, and the “my many Jewish friends opinions” . Let’s not forget this morning “Jews say it’s
genocide”
Who claimed they are?

How is stating that "Jews say it's genocide" not objective and biased? Clearly, some Jews are claiming it's genocide, so it's a statement of fact. Whether or not what is happening in Gaza is genocide (and don't forget that it's only a word) would be up to international courts to decide.

Then I reply “Jews say it is not genocide “

Anniebach

Quote growstuff Fri 11-Jul-25 09:25:30
nanna8
All I know is that there is a lot of anti Semitism here where I live. Nothing whatsoever to do with Gaza, that is just an excuse. Synagogue have been attacked and burnt with children inside and foul graffiti has been spread around. Disgusting. As for describing the awful events as genocide that is ridiculous in a war situation.
How is it ridiculous? The word "genocide" was coined during the Second World War to describe what was happening in Europe. It couldn't have been much more of a "war situation" than that.

Bombing of Dresden was genocide ?

It was an appalling and unnecessary act, but I doubt if it would have met the criteria for genocide, as it was only targeting a small section of the population.

They increased here in the UK from right after the terrible events of October 23 and kept right on going to the present day.
It doesn’t take much in any case for the antisemites to come out of the woodwork.

Anniebach

Quote growstuff Fri 11-Jul-25 09:22:11
nanna8
I don’t blame her not staying and it is a pity because she was actually there and could shed light on things we only hear secondhand or third hand.
No, she was in Israel, not Gaza, so relied on the media and official announcements, just like anybody else. Her posts weren't objective and unbiassed.

And majority of posts here are objective and unbiased ? The many, many links to the BBC, and the “my many Jewish friends opinions” . Let’s not forget this morning “Jews say it’s
genocide”

Who claimed they are?

How is stating that "Jews say it's genocide" not objective and biased? Clearly, some Jews are claiming it's genocide, so it's a statement of fact. Whether or not what is happening in Gaza is genocide (and don't forget that it's only a word) would be up to international courts to decide.

Quote Oreo Fri 11-Jul-25 09:40:03
Maremia
AnnieB where are you getting your own 'objective and unbiased' views from?
Where are your own objective and unbiased views from?
We all have our own views on Gaza and it would be nice if a bit of civility prevailed on here instead of snippy comments and downright rude ones at times.

A poster living in Israel shared “I don’t support the PM” ,
also “I have spoken to released hostages , I have spoken to IDF”,
Reply to her was “I know the truth “

Just asking as a Point of Information, nann8, as you appear to be witnessing a specific situation,
have these appalling anti-semitic attacks stayed at the same frequency, or have they increased since the publicity and discussions about the killings in Gaza have been in mainstream news outlets?

Maremia

AnnieB where are you getting your own 'objective and unbiased' views from?

Where are your own objective and unbiased views from?
We all have our own views on Gaza and it would be nice if a bit of civility prevailed on here instead of snippy comments and downright rude ones at times.

For those of you who reject the label of 'GENOCIDE' for the atrocities and war crimes that are still occurring in Gaza, perhaps you would care to share with us your definition of those anti-humanitarian, cruel and murderous events?

Smileless2012

And are those doing so expecting their posts to be regarded as more valid than others Annie?

It would be nice to have them even regarded as just as valid.

AnnieB where are you getting your own 'objective and unbiased' views from?

Quote growstuff Fri 11-Jul-25 09:25:30
nanna8
All I know is that there is a lot of anti Semitism here where I live. Nothing whatsoever to do with Gaza, that is just an excuse. Synagogue have been attacked and burnt with children inside and foul graffiti has been spread around. Disgusting. As for describing the awful events as genocide that is ridiculous in a war situation.
How is it ridiculous? The word "genocide" was coined during the Second World War to describe what was happening in Europe. It couldn't have been much more of a "war situation" than that.

Bombing of Dresden was genocide ?

Quote growstuff Fri 11-Jul-25 09:22:11
nanna8
I don’t blame her not staying and it is a pity because she was actually there and could shed light on things we only hear secondhand or third hand.
No, she was in Israel, not Gaza, so relied on the media and official announcements, just like anybody else. Her posts weren't objective and unbiassed.

And majority of posts here are objective and unbiased ? The many, many links to the BBC, and the “my many Jewish friends opinions” . Let’s not forget this morning “Jews say it’s
genocide”

And are those doing so expecting their posts to be regarded as more valid than others Annie?

nanna8

All I know is that there is a lot of anti Semitism here where I live. Nothing whatsoever to do with Gaza, that is just an excuse. Synagogue have been attacked and burnt with children inside and foul graffiti has been spread around. Disgusting. As for describing the awful events as genocide that is ridiculous in a war situation.

How is it ridiculous? The word "genocide" was coined during the Second World War to describe what was happening in Europe. It couldn't have been much more of a "war situation" than that.

nanna8

I don’t blame her not staying and it is a pity because she was actually there and could shed light on things we only hear secondhand or third hand.

No, she was in Israel, not Gaza, so relied on the media and official announcements, just like anybody else. Her posts weren't objective and unbiassed.

Quote Smileless2012 Fri 11-Jul-25 09:16:03
to expect anyone to accept them as more valid than anyone else's is unrealistic of course it is foxie and those of us who fear what this so called Humanitarian City will be in reality, may not have a viable alternative Oreo, but that doesn't mean that we, or anyone else, should blindly believe that Israel has a care for the Palestinians when all evidence to date, shows the exact opposite.

So many here quote their many Jewish friends ,

to expect anyone to accept them as more valid than anyone else's is unrealistic of course it is foxie and those of us who fear what this so called Humanitarian City will be in reality, may not have a viable alternative Oreo, but that doesn't mean that we, or anyone else, should blindly believe that Israel has a care for the Palestinians when all evidence to date, shows the exact opposite.

Quote foxie48 Fri 11-Jul-25 08:58:59
What she knew or didn't know would depend totally on what media she used, just like everyone here. Her opinions would also be coloured by her political views, just like everyone here. So, she's, of course, absolutely free to share her views and insights but to expect anyone to accept them as more valid than anyone else's is unrealistic. I've got friends in America, without exception they all voted Democrat but I know if I asked one friend's husband I would hear a completely different view on Trump and his policies as he's a staunch MAGA

Groan, not Trump again

What she knew or didn't know would depend totally on what media she used, just like everyone here. Her opinions would also be coloured by her political views, just like everyone here. So, she's, of course, absolutely free to share her views and insights but to expect anyone to accept them as more valid than anyone else's is unrealistic. I've got friends in America, without exception they all voted Democrat but I know if I asked one friend's husband I would hear a completely different view on Trump and his policies as he's a staunch MAGA man!

Quote nanna8 Fri 11-Jul-25 07:32:24
I don’t blame her not staying and it is a pity because she was actually there and could shed light on things we only hear secondhand or third hand.

She was told a poster here knew more than she did , same happened when she tried to join the discussions last year

I don’t blame her not staying and it is a pity because she was actually there and could shed light on things we only hear secondhand or third hand.

Quote Cadenza123 Fri 11-Jul-25 04:13:34
Experts, including Jewish people, have called the events in Gaza a genocide. It's unfolding before our eyes.

Jews are allegedly calling it genocide? American Jews ,European Jews ? Must be your many Jewish friends , several
posters have many Jewish friends , earlier this year a poster from Israel joined us, she was a Jew, sadly she didn’t stay with
the threads on Gaza, there is one regular poster who is a Jew