Norman Tebbit has died.

Iam64

No I don’t mean don’t upset the echo chamber. The fact the majority express similar feelings doesn’t make an echo chamber

Fine to express similar views, but not fine to criticise those who don't eulogise the deceased.

Is a bereavement thread not for those who are grieving?

This is not the bereavement thread, nor an obituary thread - it is under news and politics. It is fine to express concern about the actions of a man who caused people such unhappiness and who dislodged a sense of community in our country as well as to admire his virtues.

Oreo and Galaxy 👏👏👏

Galaxy

I know. There aren't many people I despise more than Owen Jones for example but I really hope that if God forbid anything happened to him I would have the decency not to pop onto an obituary thread and call him names.

That’s it in a nutshell.

No I don’t mean don’t upset the echo chamber. The fact the majority express similar feelings doesn’t make an echo chamber

The prohibition on speaking ill of the dead runs deep. But most people who die are like us all ... flawed and saintly in various measures.
He was no different. His respect for and care of his wife is to be admired and I share that view. But his blind adherence to and forceful administration of
policies that have had such a profound negative impact on our society cannot simply be ignored.
He was the usual human mixed bag of qualities and faults. But his errors had far reaching consequences and he, like Thatcher, showed little compassion for those whose lives were shattered by their policies.

Iam64

Read the room Bluecat (and others)

Don’t you mean ‘Don’t upset the echo chamber’?

The point is he was a human being and one can surely view his difficult life with his wife with humanity without bringing in different political views.

Some views expressed on here are truly shocking by the lack of humanity shown

Galaxy

How weird to pop onto an 'obituary' thread and say you don't care. I must pop over to a games thread and say I dont like playing games.

Well said!

My father was made redundant from Bilston Steel works in the late 70s by the then Labour government.

Bluecat you turned away from compassion ?

Read the room Bluecat (and others)

Oh dear.

Obviously I don't wish anyone dead and he certainly lived to a good age. I also felt very sorry for his wife after the bombing. But I have to admit that I detested him and all the Thatcher politicians - everything they did and everything they stood for. I think they encouraged people to admire greed and selfishness and to turn away from community and compassion.

Thank you MOnica

Well said, M0nica and others who have called out such equally unpleasant remarks on a bereavement thread.

It does say a lot about the posters who make such remarks, though.

MOnica, thank you for your comments.
Shocking post from Grandmotherto

Grandmotherto In my eyes his care for his injured wife did not rehabilitate him, as no doubt it just involved him paying for care, nothing more.

I cannot remember when I last read such a contemptible remark by someone on GN.

Anyone with even a splinter of interest in politics, or who has ever read the news, will know, that after the explosion that so badly injured his wife Norman Tebbitt devoted most of his time to caring for his wife and doing everything he could to make her life easy. Obviously he would have had carers, in the same way David Cameron had carers to help with his profoundly disabled son, or Ed Davey has carers for his son, but in each case these politicians have devoted much of their time to caring for those in their family who are disabled.

In Norman Tebbitt's case, he felt a deep personal responsibility to his wife for what happened.

No wonder we have such dreadful politicians when those who vote them in can display such judgemental views and indifference and cruelty to those who suffer, just because they do not agree with their politics.

Exactly anniebach. I didn’t agree with his politics, but many others did. He had an interesting history before politics. He was a public servant. Thank you for your servuce (even though I disagreed )

How can one not pay respects if the deceased was Tory

It displays more about those who feel the need to make disparaging comments on an obituary thread than any shortcomings of the deceased. Showing your true colours has never been clearer.

Same with me Galazy

I know. There aren't many people I despise more than Owen Jones for example but I really hope that if God forbid anything happened to him I would have the decency not to pop onto an obituary thread and call him names.

Oreo

M0nica

I would never let any disagreement I had with someone on politics stop me knowing and respecting an honourable and decent man, who faced with disaster and the terrible injuries his wife then had to live with, showed what decent, honourable, upright and couragious meant.

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I was no supporter of Mrs T, or Mr Tebbit. I was impressed by their courage in response to the terrorists attempt to kill the entire cabinet.
From my reading, Mr Tebbit stepped back in order to care for his wife, paralysed from the neck down in that horror, simply because she attended the conference in support of her husband.
I simply find it impossible to understand the need to come o to this thread and say things like “I can’t bring myself to care, he was old and he was a Tory”. Wow what a sentiment to express