Afghan mess up

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

That is not the Epping I recognise.

You don't live near.

No but we have several friends there and visit frequently.

If it is good enough for Rod Stewart and many other high profile people, its good enough for me.

My DGC were born in Harlow. Now that isn't a quiet little town, despite its being on the doorstep of Epping

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

That is not the Epping I recognise.

You don't live near.

I DID for many years, and was a visiting teacher in a school there.

To return to the OP subject, it’s reported in the papers today that one Afghan being resettled here brought 22 family members and many others brought numbers ‘in the teens’.
Further to that, an Afghan man here in the UK brought a court case against the FO and the result was the idiotic judge ruling that a ‘family’ member need not be a blood relation or even a legal family member but that ‘family means different things to different people and cultures’.In other words a family member can be a friend or anything a person chooses.Since that ruling numbers have soared.
That accounts for 36,000 and rising, Afghans being resettled here.There will be many more to come.

GrannyGravy13

That is not the Epping I recognise.

You don't live near.

Yes, Epping isn't for everyone, but having lived a lot of my life in multi cultural NE London, through necessity, I think people should be proud of their locality. One can only speak as one finds, I feel safe in Epping, but I'm not the parent of a 12 year old school girl.

That is not the Epping I recognise.

Your comments always seem designed with controversy in mind to me growstuff
In this case I wonder which leafy paradise you choose to live in.
On the few occasions we have been to Epping I found nothing wrong with it at all.

I'm amazed you feel safe with all those immigrants around .

GrannyGravy13

Wikipedia describes the town of Epping, population around 12,000, as a small market town located in the Epping Forest District

How would you describe it growstuff ?

A dump, the end of the tube line, the place where my default cancer hospital is situated. It's a typical London commuter suburb.

Wikipedia describes the town of Epping, population around 12,000, as a small market town located in the Epping Forest District

How would you describe it growstuff ?

growstuff

escaped Epping isn't a "quiet little town" .

Depends how you feel when you live there and what youre comparing it with!
It has its lively side, yes, but its peaceful enough for me to feel very safe with the grandchildren. 😆

escaped Epping isn't a "quiet little town" .

I've no idea what anything has to do with anything anymore. Being out of the country for two months makes news from the UK rather disjointed, but when something close to home is mentioned here, it's worth trying to establish some truths.
I agree that some of these groups aren't the brightest sparks in the box, but the residents of Epping themselves are very much WYSIWYG - what you see is what you get. There's no hidden agenda in how they obviously feel about that hotel housing asylum seekers, and they're certainly not going to change their views. In fact, the worry is that trouble will now escalate in this quiet little town which has good traffic links to draw others in from other areas of the capital.

Nothing to do with Afghanistan, I realise that, nothing to do with scare mongering either. Thanks GrannyGravy13 for a bit of local knowledge. I'm trying not to wind DD1 up too much by asking.

Yes, I’ve only seen the racists - that is all the news is showing as well.

It is the usual not the brightest sparks in the box specimens. They all seem tarred with the same brush.

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

I do know someone who was there, the locals and parents were not in masks, everything was peaceful, then a mob of outsiders arrived in masks attacking the police and the locals.

OK! That's certainly not what the videos on social media are showing. Some of the "outsiders" have been IDed as ex-Combat 18. The ones attacking the police aren't Antifa.

In any case, what were they protesting about? The man who has been charged with sexual assault is in court. What exactly are they hoping to achieve?

PS. What does any of this have to do with Afghanistan?

I have no idea, Whitewavemark2 bought this protest up, I just answered her 🤷‍♀️

I am not on Facebook, haven’t seen any videos as I have been rather busy teen sitting .

I don't use Facebook either, but It's not difficult to Google. I won't post one-sided scare-mongering comments without evidence.

I admit I've only seen videos of the racists attacking the police - there could very well have been videos of Antifa which haven't been posted. I'd prefer to wait until the police have have done their job sifting through the footage.

Are they all sex offenders 😮😮😮

Whitewavemark2

What I don’t understand is why anyone is protesting at all. The alleged criminal has been identified and arrested, much like many other criminals in the U.K. and no one seems to feel the need to mount a protest with all the thousands of others with a similar crime.

Is he even in the asylum residence?

The local MP has been trying to get the asylum seekers relocated out of this hotel due to the proximity of local schools.

It hasn’t been released as to whether the man is out on bail or in custody.

Yes it has gone off at a tangent 😊.

Back to the OP!

I brought up the protest groups because we’ve seen on here people alleging sexual crimes by afghans etc. it is inevitable given these allegations that there will be protests encouraged by SM.

What I don’t understand is why anyone is protesting at all. The alleged criminal has been identified and arrested, much like many other criminals in the U.K. and no one seems to feel the need to mount a protest with all the thousands of others with a similar crime.

Is he even in the asylum residence?

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

I do know someone who was there, the locals and parents were not in masks, everything was peaceful, then a mob of outsiders arrived in masks attacking the police and the locals.

OK! That's certainly not what the videos on social media are showing. Some of the "outsiders" have been IDed as ex-Combat 18. The ones attacking the police aren't Antifa.

In any case, what were they protesting about? The man who has been charged with sexual assault is in court. What exactly are they hoping to achieve?

PS. What does any of this have to do with Afghanistan?

I have no idea, Whitewavemark2 bought this protest up, I just answered her 🤷‍♀️

I am not on Facebook, haven’t seen any videos as I have been rather busy teen sitting .

GrannyGravy13

I do know someone who was there, the locals and parents were not in masks, everything was peaceful, then a mob of outsiders arrived in masks attacking the police and the locals.

OK! That's certainly not what the videos on social media are showing. Some of the "outsiders" have been IDed as ex-Combat 18. The ones attacking the police aren't Antifa.

In any case, what were they protesting about? The man who has been charged with sexual assault is in court. What exactly are they hoping to achieve?

PS. What does any of this have to do with Afghanistan?

I do know someone who was there, the locals and parents were not in masks, everything was peaceful, then a mob of outsiders arrived in masks attacking the police and the locals.

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

Not clear why that should involve violence.

Like I posted up thread, the locals were holding a peaceful vigil outside the hotel.

It was Antifa members from outside the area who turned up in masks looking for trouble. There was a post on Facebook telling them to meet outside the station at a given time.

Did they actually cause any trouble, apart from standing and chanting?

The video footage I've seen is of right-wing protestors attacking police vans and security personnel. Many of them are masked.

I'd be the first to admit that videos are selective and don't tell the whole story. How do you know Antifa were the instigators? Were you there?