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Israel Committing War Crimes - Israel - Gaza Part 4

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Magenta8 Fri 25-Jul-25 11:08:56

It is very difficult to understand what is really happening and what are lies being perpetrated by Israel or Hamas. Add to this reporting restrictions and it is surprising we know as much as we do.

AGAA4 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:56:40

Some of the food has been wasted as it hasn't reached those who desperately need it. One pallet fell into Gaza city a stronghold of the IDF so no Palestinians will have had any of that food.

petra Tue 29-Jul-25 19:52:16

AGAA4

As some of the drops were made into enemy territory the Gazans were unable to access it for fear of being killed. Wondering how that happened. Perhaps it is difficult to assess where the pallets will land.

I posted a link from Jeramy Bowen who explained how difficult airdrops are, and he has witnessed a few. People who know about airdrops are now openly saying that they are a token gesture.

Claremont Tue 29-Jul-25 19:48:04

Anniebach

Quote Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:19:51
FriedGreenTomatoes2
I wonder how Mrs. Starmer feels tonight? She’s Jewish.

Probably like a lot of other jewish people.

Ashamed

This is a vile post , please apologise Whitewave

Nothing vile about it. And nothing to apologise about.

AGAA4 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:45:20

As some of the drops were made into enemy territory the Gazans were unable to access it for fear of being killed. Wondering how that happened. Perhaps it is difficult to assess where the pallets will land.

Anniebach Tue 29-Jul-25 19:43:13

Whitewave you think Victoria Starmer feels ashamed because she is a Jew.

Do tell, how do you think all Muslims feel ?

Oreo Tue 29-Jul-25 19:39:30

Aid drops are a waste of aid and we know what will happen to most of it, stolen and sold for hard cash.

Oreo Tue 29-Jul-25 19:38:03

I don’t think politicians work like that Iam64

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:37:53

Israel has now banned aerial filming over Gaza. Sky News journalists on an aid drop were warned: record from above, and your flight gets pulled.

You don’t blacklist airspace unless the view exposes a crime. And you don’t hide genocide unless you’re neck-deep in it.

Iam64 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:36:29

I’m more convinced he’s caved to the horror and given up trying to persuade Netanyahu to be sensible never mind compassionate

Anniebach Tue 29-Jul-25 19:36:21

Quote Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:19:51
FriedGreenTomatoes2
I wonder how Mrs. Starmer feels tonight? She’s Jewish.

Probably like a lot of other jewish people.

Ashamed

This is a vile post , please apologise Whitewave

Oreo Tue 29-Jul-25 19:35:28

I’m not surprised that a poster here is bringing his Jewish wife into the situation, not surprised at all.

Oreo Tue 29-Jul-25 19:33:45

Maybe ashamed of Keir for caving into his own MP’s.
Who knows?
Unfortunately he is a caver as we have all seen ever since he took power.Fortunately this latest cave means nothing in any meaningful way.

Iam64 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:32:50

Bringin Victoria Starmer into this makes me feel uneasy. I’ve seen comments from those I see as far left, indicating Keir astsrmers “jewish family, here and in Israel “are dictating his decisions. The suggestion is he’s pro Israel anti Palestine

It’s offensive nonsense

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:19:51

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I wonder how Mrs. Starmer feels tonight? She’s Jewish.

Probably like a lot of other jewish people.

Ashamed

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:19:09

A very popular well known Palestinian was brutally killed by an illegal settler in West Bank.

The IDF then forced people away from the mourning tent.

What utterly evil people they are.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:18:50

I wonder how Mrs. Starmer feels tonight? She’s Jewish.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:16:13

For me the most important thing, and always has been are the little innocents.

It is too late for many, but the older children may be able to be saved.

Israel for me will never have my support ever again. All my life I have argued and supported it.

Never ever again.

Maremia Tue 29-Jul-25 19:08:53

Because if so, then the UK does have a bit of bargaining power.

Maremia Tue 29-Jul-25 19:07:55

Point of information, does the UK supply military materials and support to Israel?

AGAA4 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:07:34

So all countries should just sit back and allow Israel to kill all the people in Gaza. There's not much we can do but what can be done should be done.
Perhaps the good people in Israel will continue to rebel against this extremist Netanyahu government.

Maremia Tue 29-Jul-25 19:06:45

Haven't read the outcome in full. It's up to Israel to let the food in. It's all up to them

Oreo Tue 29-Jul-25 19:06:13

Hamas, and a lot of Palestinians want to rid Israel of Jews.
What’s new?
Fortunately that’s not going to ever happen.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:05:10

Beyond horrific, I totally agree. But let’s be honest - this is political posturing.

In real terms what difference is it going to make whether the UK, France or any other country recognises Palestine?

Since 1988 over 140 countries have already done so, included (so called) superpowers China and Russia. Yet there's still no actual state of Palestine and probably won't be - until the US (and therefor by definition Israel too) decide it's time. Then it'll take another (at least) 50 years to determine the geographic boundaries.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:01:50

And the children?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 29-Jul-25 19:00:24

Spain and Ireland recognised Palestine as a 'state' back in May. Has it a made a difference to the current situation? Nope.

There are only two countries that can make a difference - Israel and USA.

But we know that, don’t we?