Israel Committing War Crimes - Israel - Gaza Part 4

There is bound to be propaganda from both sides, but I look at the photos of the immense damage done to Gaza due to relentless bombing and listen to the reports of aid workers on the ground in Gaza and make my own mind up.
Sone things might be staged or exaggerated but I know what starving children look like.

I know what starving children look like indeed Babs.

It is surprising that we know as much as we do Magenta but it's not making any difference is it .

I believe the British doctors who have described the terrible injuries and malnutrition of the children in Gaza.
Sadly because they are starving many aren't strong enough to come through operations.

The British police have taken the view that any private meeting or public show of sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians in Gaza is an anti-semitic act of terrorism in support of Hamas and they treat protesters accordingly.

Palestine Action have been proscribed by our government as terrorists. They have done a lot of costly damage and caused violence.
The government haven't banned all marches for Palestine.

I was not suggesting that all support for Palestine was peaceful and legal or that peaceful protest has been banned by the government.

I was commenting on the numerous instances where the police have weighed in and arrested peaceful demonstrators.

Two recent examples come to mind. Firstly there was the case of the meeting in a Quaker Meeting House that was raided by six police officers who broke down the door and arrested some young women who were having a discussion.

The second example was a man who made a cartoon from the magazine Private Eye into a placard which he carried during a peaceful demonstration and was arrested for doing so.

What the Palestinian action people did was criminal damage, I don’t understand how they can be termed terrorists and anyone silently and peacefully supporting them are themselves arrested and wonder if this may be the start of repression of rights to demonstrate in this country.

A punitive regime is a response to either fascist politicians personal agendas, or other hand it responds to politicians' perceived threat from dissident against how the regime is dealing with a complex danger.

This prudential attitude of our UK prime minister is sometimes regarded as cowardice. However it is prudential.

The way ahead is to answer the question "do we throw caution to the winds and do the humane thing which amounts to declaring war on Israel? "

Well, if it is difficult to get reliable information from Gaza, then we know who to blame. The Israeli government has barred independent journalists and reporters. Why would they do that, if there was nothing to hide?
Also, Amnesty International has recorded a very high number of journalists being killed in Gaza, despite them wearing distintive clothing. It has been claimed that these reporters were deliberately targetted, as the number killed was beyond the possibility of accidental shootings.
During the Iraq war, jornalists went in with the troops. They called it 'embeded'.
That was the way to do it.

Yes, that was a bit strange about the arrest of the man with the Private Eye poster.

Maremia Fri 25-Jul-25 14:14:47
Well, if it is difficult to get reliable information from Gaza, then we know who to blame. The Israeli government has barred independent journalists and reporters. Why would they do that, if there was nothing to hide?
Also, Amnesty International has recorded a very high number of journalists being killed in Gaza, despite them wearing distintive clothing. It has been claimed that these reporters were deliberately targetted, as the number killed was beyond the possibility of accidental shootings.
During the Iraq war, jornalists went in with the troops. They called it 'embeded'.
That was the way to do it.

Independent journalists banned from Gaza , a very high number of journalists have been killed in Gaza

Yes AnnieB, it is shocking. So good of you to have emphasised my point. It is worth repeating for everyone to see.
The Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) counted 178 jpurnalists who were killed, as of the 12th of June.
Of these 176 were Palestinian and 2 Israeli. Can you just imagine the shocking total if more Reporters had gone in?
It seems to be a feature of fascist regimes, to kill the journalists, and attempt to hide the truth.
But, luckily, there are other reliable sources.

How Israel can deny starving children in Gaza when the evidence is there to see is beyond me. Utter cruelty to treat civilians the way they are. No wonder the Israelis do not want journalists' reporting this. Do they not equate how Jewish children were treated during WW2 with their own actions against Palestinian children today?

I think that the fact we have as much information as we do have is mainly owing to the bravery of reporters, quite a few of whom have been illegally killed.

Sarnia, I suspect that your choice of the word 'equate' may have a deeper implication.
I am begining to doubt if the powers that be in Israel feel that a Palestinian child 'equates' in any way with an Israeli child.

Israel have said they will allow air drops of aid into Gaza over the coming days.
It's usually not enough but anything is better than nothing.

AGAA4

Israel have said they will allow air drops of aid into Gaza over the coming days.
It's usually not enough but anything is better than nothing.

The thing about air drops is that they are totally indiscriminate. They will go to the strongest rather than those in most need. Earlier people drowned when trying to teach people packages that landed off the coast. I totally agree it's better than nothing but there are 2 million people in dire want.

Just let the lorries in.

It isn’t bloody rocket science

No it isn't WWM it's humane but that just doesn't appear to be on Israel's agenda does it, not when it comes to Palestinians.

It's in their own interests for Israel to drag their heels and make it difficult for aid to.get in to Gaza. They are still using food deprivation as a weapon.

They are talking about dropping enormously heavy pallets of food from aircraft - which is very dangerous and which is likely to cause stampedes because people are so desperately hungry. It is an absolute disgrace that the world has stood by and allowed this massacre to continue. I wonder what history will make of it all.

I'm not convinced that in the eyes of the world it is in their best interests AGA. Food deprivation is what terrorists do, not to mention indiscriminate bombing and firing into queues of desperate men, women and children desperate to get their hands on what little aid is available.

You are right smileless but they don't seem too bothered by world opinion so far. They carry on with the same excuses saying Hamas are causing the food shortages when every organisation knows it's Israel that won't let the lorries through.
They claim that the IDF don't kill civilians when that is clearly not true.

Their actions so far have alienated many countries and redeeming themselves doesn't seem to be on the agenda.

Caleo

A punitive regime is a response to either fascist politicians personal agendas, or other hand it responds to politicians' perceived threat from dissident against how the regime is dealing with a complex danger.

This prudential attitude of our UK prime minister is sometimes regarded as cowardice. However it is prudential.

The way ahead is to answer the question "do we throw caution to the winds and do the humane thing which amounts to declaring war on Israel? "

Caleo Are you for real? Suggesting we declare war on Israel!
Or do you throw that in like a firework to see what happens on here?