Israel Committing War Crimes - Israel - Gaza Part 4

Oreo

Their plan AGAA4 ?
Their plan was to defeat hamas and get any live hostages, and bodies of dead hostages back.
They haven’t done a bad job of those two objectives.

Their plan is to rid Gaza of all Palestinians. If you think killing and starving thousands is not doing a bad job then there's nothing more to say.

Oreo

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well not in my name Starmer. How dare he tell Israel to make peace when Hamas won't agree to any ceasefire terms?

He’s caved into the demands of Labour MPs I expect, he’s between a rock and a hard place.
It doesn’t actually mean anything tho.

Well he can’t outdo Corbyn on this to please his MPs. Some of whom have very precarious majorities and are gunning for this to take back to their constituents. I read somewhere today that it’s virtue signalling. It will mean nothing.

Their plan AGAA4 ?
Their plan was to defeat hamas and get any live hostages, and bodies of dead hostages back.
They haven’t done a bad job of those two objectives.

First and foremost is to get food to those people. Too late for many I believe. Hopefully Israel's plan will have failed with so many condemning their actions.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well not in my name Starmer. How dare he tell Israel to make peace when Hamas won't agree to any ceasefire terms?

He’s caved into the demands of Labour MPs I expect, he’s between a rock and a hard place.
It doesn’t actually mean anything tho.

Well not in my name Starmer. How dare he tell Israel to make peace when Hamas won't agree to any ceasefire terms?

silverlining48

The re feeding of starving people esp children has to be very carefully managed, special food very slowly, a bit at a time,
It’s a huge mistake and dangerous otherwise.

I’ve talked about that above.

An expert thinks that most of the tinies will be past the point of no return - their gut will now be consuming itself, and never recover.

I agree FGT it’s more of a diplomatic thing really.
In any case, only the US has any power to impose their views.

AGAA4

The UK will recognise the state of Palestine in September. It's up to Israel now to agree to conditions.

…..and hamas!

It won’t make a scrap of difference. Starmer is a lawyer and he knows this I’m sure. Hamas is a proscribed (by UK) terrorist organisation. And the hostages? Nothing said about their return sadly. Maybe it ought to have been done the other way round?

Return the hostages and then we’ll talk.

What is happening in Gaza is beyond horrific but this won’t butter any parsnips.

Gaza doesn’t have any borders, nor a stable population. Two of the requisites to recognise statehood.

Don’t forget that Starmer also says that hamas has to give up the hostages, disarm, and realise they have no place in any future government in Gaza.

The re feeding of starving people esp children has to be very carefully managed, special food very slowly, a bit at a time,
It’s a huge mistake and dangerous otherwise.

I'll give Trump his due [and I've always said this about him]. I don't think he's a warmonger and I also think he hates the thought of war and killing. Maybe it's because of his bone spurs but that's me being unfair.

Smileless2012

For the severely malnourished, food has to be carefully managed and monitored. Are there enough with the expertise needed to be able to do this?

Someone on the BBC is worried that those children are past the point of no return.

Apparently many will be at the stage where their gut begins to eat itself and so will never recover.

An excellent speech from Starmer.

Sounds as if it has been agreed with Trump as well

For the severely malnourished, food has to be carefully managed and monitored. Are there enough with the expertise needed to be able to do this?

Not aging but “playing”

“The worse case scenario of famine, is now aging out in Gaza”

The children are past the point of no return.

Evil doesn’t begin to describe those who have inflicted this on those children.

Whitewavemark2

Sorry aga I didn’t see your post but telling it twice is no bad thing. We need some good news

Yours was better than mine. I got a bit excited.

It will happen because Israel will never comply.

Hang on in. Getting there.

Whitewavemark2

Lammy now at UN.

I’ve just watched Jeremy Bowen describe the north of Gaza, how the Israelis are actively preparing it for the extreme illegal settlers.

My anger and disbelief that this is going to happen is beyond despair.

I just cry.

Agree re the West Bank, WWM2. Thats something to include in any emails.

Lammy now at UN.

I’ve just watched Jeremy Bowen describe the north of Gaza, how the Israelis are actively preparing it for the extreme illegal settlers.

My anger and disbelief that this is going to happen is beyond despair.

YES.

It's just a start though. We need to press harder still, there id still a great necessity to keep the pressure on more than ever, to see that our cabinet does what its said it would do. Ie, check that Netanyahu is meeting the conditions laid down by Starmer.

In a way, its better than a straightforward "we agree", because it lays down those specific aims and objectives