I am astonished that a poster has asked if the parents have any respect for their dead children. What a question.
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Israel Committing War Crimes - Israel - Gaza Part 4
(705 Posts)It is very difficult to understand what is really happening and what are lies being perpetrated by Israel or Hamas. Add to this reporting restrictions and it is surprising we know as much as we do.
It's more likely that Hamas takes pictures to post on the internet. The mothers wouldn't dare to complain xxx
We are in no position to judge these people.
Who knows what you would do if you were starving, you are watching your children starve to death, you have a dead baby. You have lost absolutely everything.
Every time you go for aid you are in high danger of being killed.
Maybe you would sell a picture of your baby (if indeed that it happening - it is ONLY supposition) in order to get money to try to feed your living children.
What indignities are being heaped on these people.
How DARE we judge!
"the parents have no respect
for their dead children?"
The parents are grieving the loss of a child as any parent would do. They are not responsible for what other people post in the media. That is my answer to your question.
From October 2023 Hamas has posted photographs. I certainly do not believe for money. Why did the mothers posed with their children?
We don't know if those parents wanted the photos of their children on the internet.
Unscrupulous people will take photos and post them on possibly for money. Whitewave was right to not post them on here.
Smileless2012
How can starvation in Gaza not be a fact Annie? If it isn't then why doesn't Israel allow foreign journalists in to disprove the lie?
And why are they allowing aid drops by air and issuing releases about increasing the number of lorries they're allowing?
Quote AGAA4 Thu 31-Jul-25 09:09:05
Whitewavemark2
Goodness knows how people who are in denial of children starving to death are going to cope when there is no other alternative but to recognise the fact.
I am, however certainly not going to pander to the deniers by posting the images of these children.
They had no dignity in life.
But I will give them dignity in death.
This
If the photographs which have been seen and the many Whitewave claims to have seen , the parents have no respect
for their dead children ?
Two major Israeli human rights organizations, B’Tselem & Physicians for Human Rights, officially declared Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, citing bombs targeting civilians, displacement, and deliberate starvation. The first time the Gaza genocide is called out from within Israeli society.
How can starvation in Gaza not be a fact Annie? If it isn't then why doesn't Israel allow foreign journalists in to disprove the lie?
Whitewavemark2
Goodness knows how people who are in denial of children starving to death are going to cope when there is no other alternative but to recognise the fact.
I am, however certainly not going to pander to the deniers by posting the images of these children.
They had no dignity in life.
But I will give them dignity in death.
This
Goodness knows how people who are in denial of children starving to death are going to cope when there is no other alternative but to recognise the fact.
I am, however certainly not going to pander to the deniers by posting the images of these children.
They had no dignity in life.
But I will give them dignity in death.
Anniebach
Quote growstuff Thu 31-Jul-25 08:46:02
Anniebach
Whitewave surely posting more photographs would strengthen the claim of many children starved to death. Hamas
has only release 2/3 they claimed starved yet write daily of large numbers
Maybe parents aren't keen on having the corpses of their children photographed and distributed round the world.
If the starvation is fact surely they would tell the world , I truly
don’t believe Hamas who carried out horrific torture on Israeli
babies would hold back showing photographs because parents said “no”
I don't really care what you believe.
I do believe what doctors (some British) have witnessed with their own eyes.
FWIW I don't need to see photos of atrocities such as child abuse to believe it happens.
This is Trump's response to Canada's announcement:
"Wow! Canada has just announced that it is backing statehood for Palestine. That will make it very hard for us to make a Trade Deal with them. Oh’ Canada!!!"
He obviously thinks he can threaten/bribe Canada with a trade deal.
Quote growstuff Thu 31-Jul-25 08:46:02
Anniebach
Whitewave surely posting more photographs would strengthen the claim of many children starved to death. Hamas
has only release 2/3 they claimed starved yet write daily of large numbers
Maybe parents aren't keen on having the corpses of their children photographed and distributed round the world.
If the starvation is fact surely they would tell the world , I truly
don’t believe Hamas who carried out horrific torture on Israeli
babies would hold back showing photographs because parents said “no”
Whitewavemark2
Reading that there is an argument that Gaza does not meet the criteria to be able to declare it to be a state. So it may be breaking international law.
That will play out over the coming months no doubt.
Palestine is already recognised as a state by over 100 countries. There isn't some global judge who hands out a certificate stating a place is officially a state. Individual countries can make their own decisions. It is probably that the US will veto any UN recognition. Meanwhile, it's largely a symbolic gesture - it's not going to make much practical difference, apart from rattling Israel and the US.
Anniebach
Whitewave surely posting more photographs would strengthen the claim of many children starved to death. Hamas
has only release 2/3 they claimed starved yet write daily of large numbers
Maybe parents aren't keen on having the corpses of their children photographed and distributed round the world.
Whitewave surely posting more photographs would strengthen the claim of many children starved to death. Hamas
has only release 2/3 they claimed starved yet write daily of large numbers
Re- the photo.
I have seen many, many photos of starving children, toddlers and tiny babies.
I don’t post them because in my view it is poor taste, and frankly we don’t need to see them to know that it is happening.
We can intellectualise what we are reading, data etc.
People are starving in Gaza.
Israel put in a total blockade of everything in May - including water😮. The Palestinians have done well to last as long as they have, but there is a limit and that limit has been reached.
I am a little hopeful that the world will force open the border for aid, but it is a tiny hope.
Reading that there is an argument that Gaza does not meet the criteria to be able to declare it to be a state. So it may be breaking international law.
That will play out over the coming months no doubt.
Quote Iam64 Thu 31-Jul-25 08:14:32
Yes Annie, you’re right about that photograph. But imo, that doesn’t mean children and adults aren’t facing malnourishment, displacement and terror.
Thank you Iam, I just posted a fact
Hamas do give out false information as do Israel.
This doesn't mean that the situation in Gaza isn't dire. Children are starving and dying.
Do you think that the UK, France and Canada would take the huge step of declaring Palestine a state if this was not happening?
Yes Annie, you’re right about that photograph. But imo, that doesn’t mean children and adults aren’t facing malnourishment, displacement and terror.
Quote bmacca Thu 31-Jul-25 07:41:32
I don’t think saying they starved a SICK child to death is any sort of winning argument
They didn’t say the child was starved, Hamas said the child was
starved , the child was very ill with a physical health condition
Outrage and accuracy from Piers Morgan
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